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say that the recent sightings are in no

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way connected

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with any secret development by any

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they will be focusing on

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proactively identifying objects

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this is gonna be fun what's up everybody

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they have as we reported in the paper

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some material from these objects that is

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being studied

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glad you could join us uh we have a

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great show today

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wj

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we absolutely do i'm really excited

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about it it was great to talk with

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stephen for a little bit backstage

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as always yeah

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just so you know he shares so much more

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backstage

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that it's just unbelievable i pretty

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know the secrets to the universe right

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now and i cannot share it

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amazing yeah

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yeah he's he's great as always i i love

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mr bastard we have a great time i i'm

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not sure if it was no it wasn't last

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time but the time before

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he made me well he didn't make me but he

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influenced my decision making to

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run out in the rain uh with you know

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while we were chatting because the power

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went out

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and so i had to switch to my cell phone

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it was raining

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and i don't know what came over me but i

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was running around in the rain i

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screamed for a second

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he said it could be the first time

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somebody gets electrocuted on a podcast

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it didn't happen though so that was that

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was fantastic it's the euphoria of

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i think that's probably what it was more

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than yeah that's probably what made the

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electricity go out in the first place

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you know it's some kind of

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telekinetic activity from just being so

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probably see that yeah i just got i also

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just got back from a beach vacation so

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yeah like my my euphoria and sightedness

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today is from having like an

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extraordinary sunburn uh that i'm pretty

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psyched about right now it looks good it

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looks good actually it looks like

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something yeah i'm trying to trying to

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rock it it's great to see you

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uh as always sir and if i know you you

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uh wonderful introduction planned for mr

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that's very correct absolutely yep let

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me have it ripped it's ripped from the

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internet absolutely here we go

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steven bassett is an exo-political

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activist and a leading advocate for

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ending the government-imposed truce

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embargo regarding an e.t presence

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engaging the human race he made history

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in 1996 when he registered to lobby the

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us government regarding its policy of

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withholding from the american people the

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truth of that e.t presence it was the

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first such registration and immediately

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caught the attention of the washington

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over the past uh

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30-plus years uh bassett has helped

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shape the language and chart the course

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for a major political movement he's

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lectured around the world and given over

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1200 radio and television interviews

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about the implications of what's known

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as disclosure the formal confirmation by

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heads of state of an e.t presence his

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advocacy work has been extensively

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covered by news media such as cnn fox

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news abc cbs nbc

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and many articles including in the new

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york times new york magazine the

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atlantic washington times the hill roll

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call and politico

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his organization paradigm research group

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is located in the press building two

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blocks from the white house

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steven it is absolutely wonderful to

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have you on the program today

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jay you demonstrated some sophisticated

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acronym skills there uh i think you

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could work for the pentagon you should

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check in maybe send them a resume

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you're gonna be able to rattle those

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babies off uh if you're gonna work with

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bear and you've got you've got what it

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takes the other thing i should mention

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you missed a great opportunity man

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uh you're supposed to come back and say

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i was i was on a vacation i was down

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there it was it was uh late at night i'm

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out by the beach suddenly this orb comes

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down out of nowhere

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60 60 yards tops you know and i'm

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staring at it staring at it and then

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it's gone in a second

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and then i go back i go to sleep and i

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wake up the next morning i've got this

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big sunburn right

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clearly it was uh it was from the from

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this uh this vehicle uh you know it's

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it's a you know it's a yeah exactly you

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know and uh this is a great story you

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had it you had it your palm of your hand

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you threw it away

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it threw it away i threw it away

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and he's my go host yeah yeah and lastly

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as i said i had i didn't talk to you

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before of course you know that

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and everybody knows that before i give

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interviews i always give the the

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classified briefing first

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that's right and then i do the public

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briefing sometimes i do it after the

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interview but uh you know so you guys

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understand that and that stuff is off

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the record and if you do have anything

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with it

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there will be there will be consequences

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and it was of your true age that you're

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that you're actually 48 years old that's

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right and that's right and uh i would

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just like to

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petition uh

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and put in a formal request uh for a

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confidential

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sandwich briefing so we start with the

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confidential now we're gonna have the

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public and then we're gonna have a

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confidential section afterwards so it's

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like it's like an oreo we're going to

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have a confidential oreo

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you want to know what's on your fbi

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reports fine i'll tell you

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first first of all i i just wanted to

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um first you know first say thank you

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for your dedication and everything

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you've done for this community for so

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long um and and you know ufo disclosure

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and i have to say um even though it you

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know it should be good for the community

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uh when the ufo hearings uh happened i

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really good for you as well because

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that's something you've been working for

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uh for for a while and you you're

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actually on my show when we did an

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eight-hour stream telling us uh you know

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that you ufo hearings were on the way

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and a lot of people didn't believe that

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you know because of the state of the

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world and everything and uh but but it

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happened and you know a lot of that is

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thanks to you people like robert salas

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and other people um so you know thank

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you for that and you know just real

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quick or you know however long you

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wanted to go uh what what were you what

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was your take on the hearings did it

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live up you know to any expectations you

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had um you know and what do you see

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coming next well first of all

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yeah i did say that i said that to a lot

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of people

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way back going back years and years and

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years two things i've learned in my 26

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year career in this wonderful field

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is that being ahead of your time is a

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pain in the ass

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all right and when i years ago when i

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was in business i was ahead of my time

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that didn't work out well either

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and the second thing i've learned is

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that being right is overrated

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right

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about something

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and they're thinking well

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because i'm clearly right about it

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uh this is going to happen and that's

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going to happen and uh yeah i'm going to

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get invites to hear and whatever

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well not necessarily at all being right

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is just being right

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and what you have to keep it in

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perspective uh otherwise you get real

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in this field i'm sure there aren't but

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it's something to avoid

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i probably uh appreciated the

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implication of that hearing

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more than most

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uh it was the first one in 54 years one

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of the reasons i appreciate it was

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because i have a pretty good idea how

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hard it's been to get a hearing how many

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times it's been tried how many times

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it's been blocked uh it's not like they

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just decided you know we need to have a

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hearing again oh no no no they have been

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blocking hearings going back 20

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right the last one was 1958

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it's all good thank you so much james

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mcdonald go home shoot yourself

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uh we're done blue books over condom

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report we're out of this

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and they were

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from 69 on they had a nice nine-year

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kind of hiatus where really not much was

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going on the press really wasn't

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interested and the military intelligence

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complexes oh god we've got that monkey

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off our back oh lord

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now we can just get back to building

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nuclear weapons defending the united

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states from all enemies

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doing a little radio show and somebody

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he he mentioned something about roswell

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because he had you know he heard some

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things about it but there didn't

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anything major written about it

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and and and the guy told him oh

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like there's a guy

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the name of homer or whatever

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he was there

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and and that was jesse marcel senior and

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stan went oh you have his address

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he went and he met

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jesse marcel

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senior and interviewed him

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and the entire and it and and with

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regardless of what had happened before

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the whole roswell event which is the

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seminal initial event to the modern era

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explodes back into the scene and the

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government's little nine-year vacation

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in la la land was over

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and we've been on a study march since

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1978 to where we are today and in that

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period there have been six seven eight

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times trying to get hearings and

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absolutely nothing and so the fact that

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as far as the hearing it's exactly what

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uh uh initial hearing a couple of

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members of the dod signed to deal with

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it

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probably never even knew who stanton

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friedman was doesn't matter they're

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high-level people their job is to

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oversee

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they will hire a director i think they

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have

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okay uh

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but i assure you people with knowledge

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of the subject

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will eventually be brought in to this

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this quote uh aoi msg

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um i do not think any people in the

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civilian sector will be brought in

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uh not that there aren't some that could

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be extremely helpful to them but it's

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complicated uh and there's security

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issues and classification issues but

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they'll find some people that know

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something and they'll get better at it

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but i'll close with this understand that

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the creation of the hamsag group the the

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the new name for the task force

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and everything that's going on

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is not about oh we're finally going to

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do something that will lead to

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understanding this phenomenon

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no not at all that's not what's going on

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uh they already know about the phenomena

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they know uh what they know they've had

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vehicles they've had bodies they've been

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studying uh every aspect of it that they

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could for 70 years they've got

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classified programs probably so deep in

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the ground you'll never find them unless

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they actually take you to the elevator

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uh so this is about something else

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wonderful um now along those lines from

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what you're saying who's on your wish

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list for who

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you would like to testify in in the

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hearings ahead i'm sure people like

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robert solis and lou elizondo probably

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rank pretty high on your list i'm

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guessing

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oh yeah uh here's how the hearings

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should probably go

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um

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i think they need one more what we'll

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call preliminary hearing

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in which uh a couple of more people

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associated with the program particularly

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the new director whose name i think is

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fitzpatrick or kirkpatrick i'm not sure

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i need to i should know that uh

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kirkpatrick kirkpatrick okay yeah i

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could see him coming in maybe with an

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aide for another hearing maybe a

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subcommittee hearing

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uh to kind of update him on how's

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everything going mr kirkpatrick are you

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comfortable there do you get the right

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furniture is your chair you know quality

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get an x chair do you have a next chair

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whatever

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uh and uh and and that will generate a

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more interest and awareness and it would

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likely should be another subcommittee

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not the same one not the uh

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subcommittee on counterterrorism counter

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uh intelligence counterproliferation

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uh you know because this is the biggest

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political

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story unfolding in history right uh and

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so everybody needs to have a piece of it

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unless you want to share right you don't

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want to be you want to be hogging

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the the limelight

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one more of those could very well happen

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it'll also generate a lot of coverage a

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lot of expectations okay

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no but one more that's all maybe they'll

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skip that the point is then comes the

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first hearing in front of the senate

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intel

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adam schiff has already put his marker

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down that he intends to have a hearing

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on the house intel committee he's he's

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out there

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uh neither gillibrand warner or rubio

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have been quite so explicit though

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possible rubio said something along

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those lines but adam schiff not only has

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said it he actually attended that

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hearing he was at the subcommittee

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hearing he's he's he's not the he's he's

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not the subcommittee chair that's andre

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carson he's the chair of the house intel

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he didn't have to be there but he was

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there to lend support make statements

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and put himself on the record

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and then later he mentioned you're gonna

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have a hearing so the question is the

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next hearing is going to be in front of

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an intel committee and and the question

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is

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which one house or senate

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based upon

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seniority and uh gravitas

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it's supposed to be the senate

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um they started it really uh rubio

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started it

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he's still

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the co-chair uh when it comes to intel

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committees the ranking and and uh

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and chairmen are considered really

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co-chairs and they try to act that way

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so if they were going to call for a

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hearing it wouldn't surprise me if

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warner deferred to rubio and said okay

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you you make the public statement

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uh but you know

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uh if if

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uh

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adam schiff wants to make the first move

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he'll do it

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he'll announce it and call it and i

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don't think they're going to get in some

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sort of accomplishment oh wait wait when

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are you having yours adam uh june 20 uh

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we're holding one on june 17. uh now

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wait a minute mark uh uh actually i got

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that date wrong we're holding honors on

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the 12th no i don't think that's going

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to happen and they may even coordinate

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they do that a lot when it comes to

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hearings there's a lot of coordination

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between the committee members between

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even chairs and so forth and other

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committees

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it isn't just haphazard

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um

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and that's a good thing though sometimes

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that coordination is not about getting

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things organized well and done well but

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it's all about concocting some

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hyper-partisan dog and pony show but so

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that's not going to happen here um

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and so then it'll be the intel let's

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assume

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that it's the senate intel committee

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um

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don't wait a minute though

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the house intel committee would be the

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setup and then things go to the next

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level at the senate let's assume it's

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the house intel committee adam you're

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welcome uh

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and

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what has to happen is no more

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perfunctories coming up no more uh

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oh yeah

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what's your job it's time for the

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witnesses

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they need to start bringing up the

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witness everybody knows a lot of them

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already

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so it basically it'll be an intel

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committee

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to hear witnesses with testimony germain

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to national security

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and who better than that than air force

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officers air force pilots strategic air

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command people and so forth

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now how many they want to start with i

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don't know the fact is is that it once

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they get the stage i mean these the

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hearing

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before made it to espn2

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a second subcommittee may make it the

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esp one okay

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the first senate intel committee is our

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house intel committee is going to make

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it to the network okay and esp1 and the

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internet and god knows what it's going

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to have a very very large audience uh

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and so

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when you've got that kind of audience

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you just don't do a couple of hours and

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say okay we're done no

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you bring enough witnesses to cover a

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full day minimum

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which could be three or four or five

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and then you have another day and you

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bring in some more and you bring in as

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many witnesses

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as uh

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makes sense

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and i think that's what they will do

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now i can i can say this

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if the witnesses they need to bring in

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are

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obviously

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the navy pilots

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the ship crew

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involved in the nimitz and the roosevelt

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uh there

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and and and then so there's a lot of

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those a lot of us don't even know about

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and then of course

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the big ones the big guns the ones that

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have been trying to get in front of a

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congress congress for 30 years

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and i'm talking about the nuclear

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weapons tampering witnesses

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who are getting old and dying

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and i think at one point they were

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figuring at first they ignored them

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right there was bob salas uh shindel uh

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jamison robert hastings book ever the

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the it was like the pentagon his

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attitude was what like did

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mouse do we have a maelstrom air force

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base i don't i don't know and were you

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really uh you you weren't in the air

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force were you

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i mean it was literally like that

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really what they they didn't say

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anything in other words you know

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sometimes you just don't say anything

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because the moment you respond then

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there's an immediate question to that

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response and before you know it you're

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having to do no no no you have to

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pretend they don't exist

519
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the pentagon did that somewhat

520
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somewhat successfully with the philip

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corso his book was a real problem and so

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their their attitude was uh

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we're not going to debate phil corso

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who is phil corzo right

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is he is he isn't he italian actor that

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was in a you know a fellini movie or

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something i never heard of the

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now of course that was a problem for the

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pentagon because in the 1994 five range

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his book was a best-selling book at the

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pentagon bookstore

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so uh you see that's how they had to do

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it with the new witnesses because you

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can't even go there unless you're

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prepared to round them all up

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and move them to a gulag in northern

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alaska and just tell their family

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i you know

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obviously they were dissatisfied and

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they left home to find a new life

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which we don't do here then you just

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ignore them let me tell you they're not

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happy about it not happy at all they're

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very angry men

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now

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a number of the officers who were

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present at mount stream and mine it and

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others later

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are quite old

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uh and they're starting to to pass on

551
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these are the witnesses we know the most

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about

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witnesses who haven't come forward

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i mean they know witnesses who have not

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come forward don't want to come forward

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yet more importantly

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the uh enlisted and i say enlisted the

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non-officers the ones that had the duty

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up top to secure the the the the

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facilities the ones that actually saw

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the craft hovering over the fence

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and pretty much lost it

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it was one injury for instance at

564
00:20:23,909 --> 00:20:21,840
malstrom that bob talks about

565
00:20:26,630 --> 00:20:23,919
it wasn't from the et's

566
00:20:28,470 --> 00:20:26,640
but there was a guard outside the gate

567
00:20:30,149 --> 00:20:28,480
and here this thing is is hanging oh you

568
00:20:31,590 --> 00:20:30,159
know this is like one of these fences

569
00:20:33,510 --> 00:20:31,600
it's like fences they have barbed wire

570
00:20:35,669 --> 00:20:33,520
on the top you've seen them right

571
00:20:37,830 --> 00:20:35,679
and so here's here's this orb

572
00:20:40,390 --> 00:20:37,840
hanging over out just outside the fence

573
00:20:43,110 --> 00:20:40,400
scared the living daylights out of him

574
00:20:45,190 --> 00:20:43,120
and so he tried to click right i mean i

575
00:20:47,750 --> 00:20:45,200
think he succeeded he climbed the fence

576
00:20:49,590 --> 00:20:47,760
to get in back into the compound and in

577
00:20:51,669 --> 00:20:49,600
the in the process he cut himself on

578
00:20:53,669 --> 00:20:51,679
some barbed wire so there you go that's

579
00:20:56,710 --> 00:20:53,679
the attack of the extraterrestrials now

580
00:20:57,669 --> 00:20:56,720
what's somewhat amusing about this

581
00:21:01,190 --> 00:20:57,679
is

582
00:21:04,549 --> 00:21:01,200
really really scared

583
00:21:06,470 --> 00:21:04,559
understand he cried over a fence

584
00:21:07,990 --> 00:21:06,480
a wire fence

585
00:21:10,710 --> 00:21:08,000
in order to get

586
00:21:12,870 --> 00:21:10,720
safe from the craft

587
00:21:15,190 --> 00:21:12,880
that's hanging up defense we're not

588
00:21:17,190 --> 00:21:15,200
talking about a three-foot cement ball

589
00:21:17,990 --> 00:21:17,200
we're talking about offense

590
00:21:19,750 --> 00:21:18,000
hey

591
00:21:21,350 --> 00:21:19,760
i make a joke i hope that person doesn't

592
00:21:24,390 --> 00:21:21,360
take it personally

593
00:21:26,070 --> 00:21:24,400
these men are younger

594
00:21:27,669 --> 00:21:26,080
but because they were not officers

595
00:21:30,230 --> 00:21:27,679
because they didn't have that and they

596
00:21:32,630 --> 00:21:30,240
had a more of a career ahead of them

597
00:21:34,789 --> 00:21:32,640
they they retired later

598
00:21:37,110 --> 00:21:34,799
uh and they weren't officers they were

599
00:21:38,870 --> 00:21:37,120
much more reluctant to say anything i i

600
00:21:41,270 --> 00:21:38,880
don't need this grief let bob salas and

601
00:21:43,190 --> 00:21:41,280
jamison and those guys talk about it

602
00:21:44,950 --> 00:21:43,200
now they're in their 70s

603
00:21:46,950 --> 00:21:44,960
i think there's a lot of them and i

604
00:21:48,390 --> 00:21:46,960
think that once they know that they're

605
00:21:50,470 --> 00:21:48,400
going to be able to tell their story

606
00:21:52,549 --> 00:21:50,480
with others in front of a committee

607
00:21:53,750 --> 00:21:52,559
under oath in a highly favorable

608
00:21:55,990 --> 00:21:53,760
environment

609
00:21:58,310 --> 00:21:56,000
we may discover how many nuclear weapons

610
00:22:01,590 --> 00:21:58,320
tampering witnesses there really are and

611
00:22:03,270 --> 00:22:01,600
so these these are the ones that must

612
00:22:04,789 --> 00:22:03,280
get in front of congress i do not think

613
00:22:06,789 --> 00:22:04,799
they should be first i think we need the

614
00:22:09,029 --> 00:22:06,799
pilots we need the fravors we need uh

615
00:22:11,190 --> 00:22:09,039
the kevin days and so forth and whatever

616
00:22:12,870 --> 00:22:11,200
else louis elizando has vetted over the

617
00:22:14,710 --> 00:22:12,880
last four years and i think he's talked

618
00:22:16,470 --> 00:22:14,720
to a lot of witnesses

619
00:22:19,190 --> 00:22:16,480
that sets the stage

620
00:22:20,870 --> 00:22:19,200
and then the nuclear weapons witnesses

621
00:22:23,270 --> 00:22:20,880
come in now they're important for many

622
00:22:24,470 --> 00:22:23,280
reasons but not the least of which

623
00:22:26,630 --> 00:22:24,480
is that

624
00:22:28,789 --> 00:22:26,640
with respect to the politic politicians

625
00:22:30,549 --> 00:22:28,799
and their concerns and needs and we

626
00:22:33,110 --> 00:22:30,559
always want to service their concerns

627
00:22:36,149 --> 00:22:33,120
and needs um

628
00:22:38,070 --> 00:22:36,159
national security is the fundamental

629
00:22:38,870 --> 00:22:38,080
platform that they must have

630
00:22:41,430 --> 00:22:38,880
right

631
00:22:43,029 --> 00:22:41,440
in other words they they they can't be

632
00:22:44,710 --> 00:22:43,039
holding these hearings because they you

633
00:22:46,070 --> 00:22:44,720
know they love the star wars movies or

634
00:22:47,990 --> 00:22:46,080
so i don't know

635
00:22:50,310 --> 00:22:48,000
it's got to be for a very solid

636
00:22:52,549 --> 00:22:50,320
important reason national security

637
00:22:54,310 --> 00:22:52,559
nobody denies that

638
00:22:55,990 --> 00:22:54,320
the extraterrestrial presence and its

639
00:22:59,430 --> 00:22:56,000
techno and the technology that presence

640
00:23:00,390 --> 00:22:59,440
has is a potential national security

641
00:23:02,710 --> 00:23:00,400
threat

642
00:23:03,669 --> 00:23:02,720
so is any asteroid in the asteroid belt

643
00:23:05,830 --> 00:23:03,679
okay

644
00:23:07,909 --> 00:23:05,840
but in toll it's actually heading toward

645
00:23:09,909 --> 00:23:07,919
us and confirmed that it's going to hit

646
00:23:11,909 --> 00:23:09,919
us then it's it's not a threat it's just

647
00:23:13,510 --> 00:23:11,919
a potential threat anyway

648
00:23:16,470 --> 00:23:13,520
it is so that's a national security

649
00:23:18,390 --> 00:23:16,480
matter well nothing nothing supports the

650
00:23:20,470 --> 00:23:18,400
national security narrative better than

651
00:23:22,870 --> 00:23:20,480
nuclear weapons tampering right which

652
00:23:25,029 --> 00:23:22,880
has occurred both in the us and russia

653
00:23:27,110 --> 00:23:25,039
and so these witnesses

654
00:23:29,350 --> 00:23:27,120
are not the most powerful

655
00:23:32,390 --> 00:23:29,360
the most convincing

656
00:23:34,830 --> 00:23:32,400
they are also the most important to

657
00:23:37,830 --> 00:23:34,840
to the politician the

658
00:23:39,029 --> 00:23:37,840
political members of congress uh in

659
00:23:42,149 --> 00:23:39,039
terms of

660
00:23:43,909 --> 00:23:42,159
of of these things being uh safe and uh

661
00:23:46,149 --> 00:23:43,919
appropriate and not getting any grief

662
00:23:47,110 --> 00:23:46,159
and so they want them there i ultimately

663
00:23:48,390 --> 00:23:47,120
they're gonna want them there if they

664
00:23:49,590 --> 00:23:48,400
don't know that they will know soon

665
00:23:52,789 --> 00:23:49,600
enough

666
00:23:54,630 --> 00:23:52,799
and when they testify

667
00:23:56,630 --> 00:23:54,640
i think it's ball game over right

668
00:23:58,470 --> 00:23:56,640
whether it's the second day third day

669
00:24:01,269 --> 00:23:58,480
fourth day doesn't matter

670
00:24:03,830 --> 00:24:01,279
when that testimony is done

671
00:24:06,310 --> 00:24:03,840
and the dod undoubtedly will they'll

672
00:24:08,950 --> 00:24:06,320
have somebody come in from the dod

673
00:24:11,269 --> 00:24:08,960
to how would you say uh

674
00:24:13,350 --> 00:24:11,279
address the testimony

675
00:24:15,190 --> 00:24:13,360
and be a high level person and they'll

676
00:24:16,070 --> 00:24:15,200
ask him or her a question along these

677
00:24:18,630 --> 00:24:16,080
lines

678
00:24:21,190 --> 00:24:18,640
you know uh scott bray at the first

679
00:24:23,990 --> 00:24:21,200
hearing said he didn't know

680
00:24:24,870 --> 00:24:24,000
about mountstrom air force base case

681
00:24:26,950 --> 00:24:24,880
uh

682
00:24:28,950 --> 00:24:26,960
is that the dod's position

683
00:24:30,789 --> 00:24:28,960
i said oh no no no scott was not aware

684
00:24:33,350 --> 00:24:30,799
of it but yet we were certainly aware of

685
00:24:35,669 --> 00:24:33,360
it okay yes sir have there been more

686
00:24:37,269 --> 00:24:35,679
instances where the missiles were

687
00:24:40,310 --> 00:24:37,279
were

688
00:24:42,390 --> 00:24:40,320
turned off without proper explanation as

689
00:24:43,830 --> 00:24:42,400
in fact yes yes there there have been a

690
00:24:46,470 --> 00:24:43,840
number of instances we considered the

691
00:24:48,149 --> 00:24:46,480
highest national security obviously uh

692
00:24:49,750 --> 00:24:48,159
if the public thought that the soviets

693
00:24:51,990 --> 00:24:49,760
could turn our missiles off it will this

694
00:24:53,269 --> 00:24:52,000
would not be good conducive to

695
00:24:55,750 --> 00:24:53,279
come to

696
00:24:57,830 --> 00:24:55,760
a orderly society it's

697
00:25:00,390 --> 00:24:57,840
re absolutely a national security matter

698
00:25:02,630 --> 00:25:00,400
who doubts that okay fine i'm fine so

699
00:25:05,029 --> 00:25:02,640
you've known about this okay

700
00:25:07,510 --> 00:25:05,039
and so um

701
00:25:08,870 --> 00:25:07,520
secretary of whatever

702
00:25:10,149 --> 00:25:08,880
is it your

703
00:25:12,549 --> 00:25:10,159
view

704
00:25:14,470 --> 00:25:12,559
that the testimony

705
00:25:16,549 --> 00:25:14,480
of these witnesses

706
00:25:18,630 --> 00:25:16,559
was to an event

707
00:25:20,390 --> 00:25:18,640
that no power on earth at the time could

708
00:25:22,149 --> 00:25:20,400
have done

709
00:25:25,909 --> 00:25:22,159
yes that is

710
00:25:28,549 --> 00:25:25,919
that is uh that is uncertainly the case

711
00:25:30,470 --> 00:25:28,559
so do you think

712
00:25:33,110 --> 00:25:30,480
it was non-human presence

713
00:25:35,190 --> 00:25:33,120
technology of a non-human origin

714
00:25:36,390 --> 00:25:35,200
well senator

715
00:25:38,470 --> 00:25:36,400
i think that

716
00:25:40,830 --> 00:25:38,480
uh

717
00:25:43,029 --> 00:25:40,840
two things one

718
00:25:44,470 --> 00:25:43,039
uh what i

719
00:25:46,470 --> 00:25:44,480
would want to answer about that should

720
00:25:47,750 --> 00:25:46,480
be in classified session and i'm happy

721
00:25:49,269 --> 00:25:47,760
to answer those questions in full in the

722
00:25:50,710 --> 00:25:49,279
classified session by the way all these

723
00:25:51,909 --> 00:25:50,720
hearings will have classified sessions i

724
00:25:53,590 --> 00:25:51,919
assure you

725
00:25:55,190 --> 00:25:53,600
uh and the second thing is that

726
00:25:57,510 --> 00:25:55,200
ultimately uh clearly it's it's

727
00:26:01,830 --> 00:25:57,520
something that the committee

728
00:26:03,669 --> 00:26:01,840
uh it needs to uh uh uh uh investigate

729
00:26:05,909 --> 00:26:03,679
and and and come to its conclusions

730
00:26:07,669 --> 00:26:05,919
based upon uh our public testimony and

731
00:26:09,190 --> 00:26:07,679
the classified testimony and and they

732
00:26:12,070 --> 00:26:09,200
can then give their view to the american

733
00:26:14,390 --> 00:26:12,080
people and about that time okay

734
00:26:17,110 --> 00:26:14,400
you've got reporters okay out of their

735
00:26:19,750 --> 00:26:17,120
chair rushing to their computer trying

736
00:26:21,350 --> 00:26:19,760
to get to their editors right uh trying

737
00:26:23,590 --> 00:26:21,360
to get their piece done

738
00:26:25,350 --> 00:26:23,600
opinion people trying to you know type

739
00:26:26,870 --> 00:26:25,360
out as fast as they can opinions for the

740
00:26:27,669 --> 00:26:26,880
hill and the new york times everything

741
00:26:32,070 --> 00:26:27,679
else

742
00:26:40,070 --> 00:26:34,549
at that point

743
00:26:42,630 --> 00:26:40,080
say

744
00:26:45,669 --> 00:26:42,640
cross the event horizon

745
00:26:46,950 --> 00:26:45,679
it could take as few as three days

746
00:26:48,230 --> 00:26:46,960
it could be stretched for weeks it

747
00:26:49,669 --> 00:26:48,240
depends on how they want to go about

748
00:26:51,909 --> 00:26:49,679
this because

749
00:26:52,950 --> 00:26:51,919
the audience is going to be such a huge

750
00:26:54,470 --> 00:26:52,960
size

751
00:26:55,750 --> 00:26:54,480
that i think a lot of the committees are

752
00:26:57,110 --> 00:26:55,760
going to be going

753
00:26:59,269 --> 00:26:57,120
we got to stretch this out as long as

754
00:27:00,950 --> 00:26:59,279
possible you know it was like 100

755
00:27:03,190 --> 00:27:00,960
million people watching me yesterday and

756
00:27:05,750 --> 00:27:03,200
i was acting well i was being a good man

757
00:27:07,669 --> 00:27:05,760
good boy good woman i wasn't posturing i

758
00:27:10,070 --> 00:27:07,679
wasn't putting on a show i was asking

759
00:27:12,549 --> 00:27:10,080
intelligent questions it was very much

760
00:27:13,350 --> 00:27:12,559
fun and let's let's keep this going

761
00:27:14,789 --> 00:27:13,360
right

762
00:27:16,549 --> 00:27:14,799
but whatever

763
00:27:18,870 --> 00:27:16,559
whether it's two days four days six days

764
00:27:21,190 --> 00:27:18,880
or a week or two weeks

765
00:27:24,070 --> 00:27:21,200
at some point the president is now in a

766
00:27:25,110 --> 00:27:24,080
completely comfortable position

767
00:27:26,230 --> 00:27:25,120
to

768
00:27:29,430 --> 00:27:26,240
uh

769
00:27:31,750 --> 00:27:29,440
go before the american people and say

770
00:27:34,149 --> 00:27:31,760
i watch the testimony you watch the

771
00:27:37,029 --> 00:27:34,159
testimony my chief aides watch the

772
00:27:39,750 --> 00:27:37,039
testimony i talk with

773
00:27:42,149 --> 00:27:39,760
the the top people over at the pentagon

774
00:27:43,909 --> 00:27:42,159
and uh

775
00:27:46,149 --> 00:27:43,919
it's uh it's convincing

776
00:27:48,630 --> 00:27:46,159
this phenomenon is non-human it is

777
00:27:50,710 --> 00:27:48,640
extraterrestrial either from within our

778
00:27:52,230 --> 00:27:50,720
solar system or from another solar

779
00:27:54,950 --> 00:27:52,240
system okay

780
00:27:56,070 --> 00:27:54,960
and that's disclosure that's it right

781
00:27:57,750 --> 00:27:56,080
then

782
00:28:00,470 --> 00:27:57,760
it needs to happen this summer it needs

783
00:28:01,590 --> 00:28:00,480
to happen before the campaigns get too

784
00:28:04,789 --> 00:28:01,600
deep

785
00:28:09,350 --> 00:28:04,799
right so that every candidate for all

786
00:28:11,350 --> 00:28:09,360
400 and roughly 65 offices in congress

787
00:28:13,350 --> 00:28:11,360
will will know

788
00:28:15,430 --> 00:28:13,360
will have information and then can

789
00:28:17,190 --> 00:28:15,440
answer questions from their constituents

790
00:28:20,389 --> 00:28:17,200
and from the media what do you think

791
00:28:21,909 --> 00:28:20,399
about that and if the answer is and the

792
00:28:24,149 --> 00:28:21,919
president said there's et's here i don't

793
00:28:25,750 --> 00:28:24,159
believe it's all a scam it's all a lie

794
00:28:28,630 --> 00:28:25,760
it's not true he's just using it to try

795
00:28:30,710 --> 00:28:28,640
to get us elected there's no et's here

796
00:28:34,070 --> 00:28:30,720
he loses the election okay

797
00:28:35,190 --> 00:28:34,080
or somebody else comes up and says um

798
00:28:41,669 --> 00:28:35,200
uh

799
00:28:43,350 --> 00:28:41,679
absolute threat they could take tickets

800
00:28:46,070 --> 00:28:43,360
out any time they want i'm going to be

801
00:28:47,909 --> 00:28:46,080
pushing for a 5 trillion dollar et

802
00:28:49,269 --> 00:28:47,919
defense program we're going to war with

803
00:28:51,430 --> 00:28:49,279
those sons of [\h__\h] we're going to

804
00:28:52,389 --> 00:28:51,440
make the space force into what it ought

805
00:28:54,149 --> 00:28:52,399
to be

806
00:28:57,029 --> 00:28:54,159
he loses the election or she loses the

807
00:28:58,870 --> 00:28:57,039
election and so forth let us find out

808
00:29:01,669 --> 00:28:58,880
what they believe what they think about

809
00:29:03,990 --> 00:29:01,679
the biggest issue of our time to not get

810
00:29:05,750 --> 00:29:04,000
those hearings done

811
00:29:07,750 --> 00:29:05,760
when we're so close

812
00:29:09,909 --> 00:29:07,760
and to say well no let's just drag it

813
00:29:12,230 --> 00:29:09,919
out because the elections are coming and

814
00:29:14,230 --> 00:29:12,240
then people get elected in the next year

815
00:29:16,389 --> 00:29:14,240
it comes out

816
00:29:18,950 --> 00:29:16,399
people are going to say you politicize

817
00:29:21,269 --> 00:29:18,960
this thing big time and i've got this

818
00:29:23,430 --> 00:29:21,279
person representing me in congress who

819
00:29:26,389 --> 00:29:23,440
doesn't know a flying saucer from a

820
00:29:28,470 --> 00:29:26,399
boston cream pie how did that happen

821
00:29:30,149 --> 00:29:28,480
all right so this is this is the message

822
00:29:31,830 --> 00:29:30,159
that i'm trying to tell them i would

823
00:29:33,510 --> 00:29:31,840
love to be giving this message on cnn

824
00:29:34,950 --> 00:29:33,520
they haven't called in a long time and

825
00:29:36,310 --> 00:29:34,960
there's some other networks i'd be happy

826
00:29:38,830 --> 00:29:36,320
to chat with but they haven't called

827
00:29:41,269 --> 00:29:38,840
either so i give it here

828
00:29:43,269 --> 00:29:41,279
because it's the golden age of the

829
00:29:45,110 --> 00:29:43,279
podcast folks in case you haven't paid

830
00:29:47,510 --> 00:29:45,120
it out you know one day the networks

831
00:29:49,190 --> 00:29:47,520
will be looking around nobody there

832
00:29:51,909 --> 00:29:49,200
they're all watching you and joe rogan

833
00:29:55,029 --> 00:29:53,430
so uh but the message is gonna get

834
00:29:56,710 --> 00:29:55,039
through one or the other got to have

835
00:29:59,029 --> 00:29:56,720
them this summer

836
00:30:01,269 --> 00:29:59,039
we ne no not right now because the

837
00:30:03,830 --> 00:30:01,279
january 6 hearings start tomorrow

838
00:30:06,549 --> 00:30:03,840
they're very big they're going to be fun

839
00:30:07,269 --> 00:30:06,559
and since i'm on that subject

840
00:30:09,029 --> 00:30:07,279
and

841
00:30:10,630 --> 00:30:09,039
you know for those of you that you know

842
00:30:12,710 --> 00:30:10,640
like to be entertained and like a great

843
00:30:14,870 --> 00:30:12,720
show in a streaming series you must

844
00:30:16,789 --> 00:30:14,880
watch the january 6 hearings

845
00:30:18,630 --> 00:30:16,799
you are going to see

846
00:30:20,549 --> 00:30:18,640
some of the ugliest

847
00:30:22,630 --> 00:30:20,559
most partisan

848
00:30:23,909 --> 00:30:22,640
dog and pony shows of all time they're

849
00:30:27,750 --> 00:30:23,919
going to make that

850
00:30:29,830 --> 00:30:27,760
earrings look like uh 60 minutes or bbc

851
00:30:31,190 --> 00:30:29,840
it's going to be god awful but it's

852
00:30:35,430 --> 00:30:31,200
going to be a train wreck it's going to

853
00:30:36,710 --> 00:30:35,440
be a train wreck you cannot not watch

854
00:30:38,310 --> 00:30:36,720
a really

855
00:30:39,909 --> 00:30:38,320
ultra intense

856
00:30:40,789 --> 00:30:39,919
mexican novella

857
00:30:42,549 --> 00:30:40,799
okay

858
00:30:44,470 --> 00:30:42,559
it's going to be pretty bad and the

859
00:30:46,870 --> 00:30:44,480
reason i bring this up

860
00:30:48,710 --> 00:30:46,880
is because you're going to see

861
00:30:51,110 --> 00:30:48,720
well i you know benghazi's got pretty

862
00:30:53,350 --> 00:30:51,120
damn bad i had you know pick one it was

863
00:30:55,909 --> 00:30:53,360
one of 75 hearings they're pretty bad

864
00:30:57,029 --> 00:30:55,919
you're going to see about as bad as it

865
00:30:59,110 --> 00:30:57,039
gets

866
00:31:01,350 --> 00:30:59,120
all right and then

867
00:31:03,110 --> 00:31:01,360
and and nobody's going to win i assure

868
00:31:04,070 --> 00:31:03,120
you none of the members of congress none

869
00:31:05,830 --> 00:31:04,080
of the committee members are going to

870
00:31:07,590 --> 00:31:05,840
come out of this smelling like a rose

871
00:31:10,549 --> 00:31:07,600
they're all going to look bad

872
00:31:12,470 --> 00:31:10,559
right and then

873
00:31:13,830 --> 00:31:12,480
if they're smart you'll see the e.t

874
00:31:16,549 --> 00:31:13,840
hearings begin

875
00:31:18,789 --> 00:31:16,559
and it'll be completely different you'll

876
00:31:20,950 --> 00:31:18,799
see people acting correctly

877
00:31:23,029 --> 00:31:20,960
asking reasonable questions

878
00:31:25,190 --> 00:31:23,039
there's no non there's no partisan

879
00:31:28,230 --> 00:31:25,200
platform in which to put on a show there

880
00:31:31,269 --> 00:31:28,240
there's nothing to be gained this is a a

881
00:31:32,630 --> 00:31:31,279
nonpartisan global issue affecting

882
00:31:36,389 --> 00:31:32,640
everybody

883
00:31:37,669 --> 00:31:36,399
in a sense on an individual basis it'll

884
00:31:39,590 --> 00:31:37,679
have different impacts on different

885
00:31:40,950 --> 00:31:39,600
industries post-disclosure

886
00:31:43,669 --> 00:31:40,960
and they're going to behave themselves

887
00:31:45,269 --> 00:31:43,679
and and and it's going to be like

888
00:31:46,870 --> 00:31:45,279
that's the way

889
00:31:47,909 --> 00:31:46,880
hearing should be

890
00:31:49,110 --> 00:31:47,919
yeah and

891
00:31:51,590 --> 00:31:49,120
as the

892
00:31:54,470 --> 00:31:51,600
the fan mail rolls in and the positive

893
00:31:56,870 --> 00:31:54,480
rev reviews roll in these members are

894
00:31:59,029 --> 00:31:56,880
consciously saying you know

895
00:32:01,110 --> 00:31:59,039
when you act like an adult

896
00:32:03,350 --> 00:32:01,120
and you do your job

897
00:32:04,710 --> 00:32:03,360
and you're authentic

898
00:32:07,430 --> 00:32:04,720
people love you

899
00:32:09,269 --> 00:32:07,440
they love me this is fantastic but when

900
00:32:11,509 --> 00:32:09,279
you make a complete ass out of yourself

901
00:32:12,950 --> 00:32:11,519
they don't love you so let me see how

902
00:32:14,310 --> 00:32:12,960
should i go forward what should i do

903
00:32:16,070 --> 00:32:14,320
which passion i take you know what i'm

904
00:32:18,230 --> 00:32:16,080
talking about

905
00:32:20,389 --> 00:32:18,240
there is multiple milestones that will

906
00:32:22,630 --> 00:32:20,399
be crossed and i'm just giving people a

907
00:32:24,789 --> 00:32:22,640
warning this is a show you cannot miss

908
00:32:26,470 --> 00:32:24,799
and as i've said countless times

909
00:32:28,950 --> 00:32:26,480
first thing on your list is you can

910
00:32:31,269 --> 00:32:28,960
measure your television and you look at

911
00:32:33,190 --> 00:32:31,279
your bank account and you say

912
00:32:34,870 --> 00:32:33,200
can i get a bigger one and if you can

913
00:32:36,870 --> 00:32:34,880
afford it you'll get a bigger one all

914
00:32:39,269 --> 00:32:36,880
right and if it's got that surround

915
00:32:40,789 --> 00:32:39,279
sound [\h__\h] get that too all right you

916
00:32:42,389 --> 00:32:40,799
got to have

917
00:32:45,110 --> 00:32:42,399
at most if you can get at most get the

918
00:32:47,029 --> 00:32:45,120
atmos speakers but but you you want

919
00:32:48,549 --> 00:32:47,039
the highest viewing experience and

920
00:32:50,389 --> 00:32:48,559
listening experience you want because

921
00:32:53,110 --> 00:32:50,399
these hearings the ones that we're

922
00:32:54,630 --> 00:32:53,120
talking about not the january 6 hearings

923
00:32:57,110 --> 00:32:54,640
will be the most important hearings of

924
00:32:59,509 --> 00:32:57,120
any legislative body in history and and

925
00:33:01,590 --> 00:32:59,519
and let me add this

926
00:33:03,110 --> 00:33:01,600
again i'm i'm talking to congress now

927
00:33:05,190 --> 00:33:03,120
i'm talking to adam schiff i'm talking

928
00:33:07,269 --> 00:33:05,200
to mark rubio and all these people who

929
00:33:09,909 --> 00:33:07,279
wouldn't let me into their office uh

930
00:33:11,830 --> 00:33:09,919
unless i i crashed it with a battering

931
00:33:13,909 --> 00:33:11,840
ram and then they would have me arrested

932
00:33:17,190 --> 00:33:13,919
uh is that

933
00:33:20,870 --> 00:33:17,200
as it happens the brazilian senate

934
00:33:23,509 --> 00:33:20,880
has invited uh captain robert salas

935
00:33:24,870 --> 00:33:23,519
uh this is because of the work of

936
00:33:27,190 --> 00:33:24,880
one of the leading researchers in all of

937
00:33:29,110 --> 00:33:27,200
south america that's aj gavart i mean

938
00:33:33,110 --> 00:33:29,120
he's been at it for 40 years

939
00:33:35,750 --> 00:33:33,120
to come down and testify before them

940
00:33:36,789 --> 00:33:35,760
it will be the first time

941
00:33:39,350 --> 00:33:36,799
that

942
00:33:41,669 --> 00:33:39,360
any american military officer

943
00:33:45,669 --> 00:33:41,679
has testified before legislative body

944
00:33:47,509 --> 00:33:45,679
it's possible that uh one or one or two

945
00:33:48,950 --> 00:33:47,519
south american air force people like in

946
00:33:51,509 --> 00:33:48,960
peru or what have you might have

947
00:33:53,909 --> 00:33:51,519
testified before peruvian legislature i

948
00:33:55,590 --> 00:33:53,919
don't think so okay it'll certainly be

949
00:33:57,830 --> 00:33:55,600
the first time a nuclear witness

950
00:34:01,590 --> 00:33:57,840
kaepernick witnesses testified

951
00:34:03,990 --> 00:34:01,600
now that's scheduled for june 24.

952
00:34:05,190 --> 00:34:04,000
now if i'm

953
00:34:07,350 --> 00:34:05,200
you know

954
00:34:09,909 --> 00:34:07,360
if i'm a political appointee

955
00:34:11,510 --> 00:34:09,919
at the department of defense

956
00:34:13,669 --> 00:34:11,520
if i am a

957
00:34:15,270 --> 00:34:13,679
hardcore patriot

958
00:34:18,149 --> 00:34:15,280
america first

959
00:34:20,230 --> 00:34:18,159
member of congress

960
00:34:23,510 --> 00:34:20,240
and the most important event in human

961
00:34:27,669 --> 00:34:23,520
history is kind of coming our way though

962
00:34:29,349 --> 00:34:27,679
always you know don't want to overdo it

963
00:34:30,710 --> 00:34:29,359
and it looks as if

964
00:34:33,430 --> 00:34:30,720
the civilian

965
00:34:35,270 --> 00:34:33,440
the the the the brazilian senate

966
00:34:37,349 --> 00:34:35,280
is going to be the first one to

967
00:34:40,710 --> 00:34:37,359
interview one of our military on this

968
00:34:42,710 --> 00:34:40,720
issue isn't that embarrassing yeah no no

969
00:34:44,550 --> 00:34:42,720
no no no no no no that's that's not

970
00:34:45,750 --> 00:34:44,560
that's not good that's not good at all

971
00:34:49,030 --> 00:34:45,760
that's going to be very very

972
00:34:50,869 --> 00:34:49,040
embarrassing right right uh and so if

973
00:34:53,589 --> 00:34:50,879
they have a limited amount of time to

974
00:34:55,109 --> 00:34:53,599
get this hearing going and get bob salas

975
00:34:56,710 --> 00:34:55,119
in front of a u.s

976
00:34:58,950 --> 00:34:56,720
legislative body

977
00:35:01,750 --> 00:34:58,960
or they're going to be uh what's the

978
00:35:05,829 --> 00:35:03,349
tail end trailing

979
00:35:07,349 --> 00:35:05,839
the very fine nation of brazil which has

980
00:35:09,829 --> 00:35:07,359
been interested in the issue for a long

981
00:35:11,670 --> 00:35:09,839
time fairly candid about it a lot of

982
00:35:13,670 --> 00:35:11,680
work done down there some important

983
00:35:15,670 --> 00:35:13,680
cases they have every right

984
00:35:17,910 --> 00:35:15,680
to have the first such hearing

985
00:35:20,870 --> 00:35:17,920
right but again

986
00:35:23,589 --> 00:35:20,880
i'm i i'm not really worried about

987
00:35:25,750 --> 00:35:23,599
how brazil works here it'll be fine i'm

988
00:35:26,870 --> 00:35:25,760
worried about the disclosure process

989
00:35:28,550 --> 00:35:26,880
which is

990
00:35:29,589 --> 00:35:28,560
going to be based on what our congress

991
00:35:32,310 --> 00:35:29,599
does

992
00:35:34,470 --> 00:35:32,320
and and so and i want i want this

993
00:35:36,550 --> 00:35:34,480
process to go forward in such a way

994
00:35:37,750 --> 00:35:36,560
that it looks good i want i want the

995
00:35:39,030 --> 00:35:37,760
republicans to look good i want the

996
00:35:40,470 --> 00:35:39,040
democrats to look good i want the

997
00:35:41,670 --> 00:35:40,480
committee chairs to look good i

998
00:35:43,190 --> 00:35:41,680
certainly want the witnesses to look

999
00:35:45,030 --> 00:35:43,200
good i want the president to be in a

1000
00:35:47,109 --> 00:35:45,040
position where he can look good i want

1001
00:35:48,950 --> 00:35:47,119
it all to go well i don't want i don't

1002
00:35:50,390 --> 00:35:48,960
want stupid things or mistakes to be

1003
00:35:53,430 --> 00:35:50,400
made that just

1004
00:35:55,030 --> 00:35:53,440
mucks it up and and causes problems not

1005
00:35:58,150 --> 00:35:55,040
that there won't be some

1006
00:36:00,950 --> 00:35:58,160
i get that but you know i i i'm not i'm

1007
00:36:04,390 --> 00:36:00,960
not a troublemaker not really i'm not a

1008
00:36:05,750 --> 00:36:04,400
troublemaker i'm i i i'm a a lover not a

1009
00:36:08,069 --> 00:36:05,760
fighter you know what could i say the

1010
00:36:10,550 --> 00:36:08,079
point is is that is that this is an

1011
00:36:11,990 --> 00:36:10,560
issue and i'm trying to point it out uh

1012
00:36:13,910 --> 00:36:12,000
the only only thing that worse could

1013
00:36:15,270 --> 00:36:13,920
happen would be that vladimir putin in

1014
00:36:16,390 --> 00:36:15,280
order to distract from the fact that

1015
00:36:18,470 --> 00:36:16,400
he's slaughtering women and children in

1016
00:36:20,710 --> 00:36:18,480
ukraine decides oh

1017
00:36:22,069 --> 00:36:20,720
i'll go in front of the russian people

1018
00:36:23,589 --> 00:36:22,079
and announce and show them all the

1019
00:36:25,430 --> 00:36:23,599
evidence we have for an extraterrestrial

1020
00:36:26,710 --> 00:36:25,440
president that'll divert their attention

1021
00:36:29,430 --> 00:36:26,720
away from the people i'm killing in

1022
00:36:30,790 --> 00:36:29,440
ukraine that would be worse than bob

1023
00:36:33,589 --> 00:36:30,800
testifying in front of the brazilian

1024
00:36:35,510 --> 00:36:33,599
senate that's that's a great uh point

1025
00:36:37,670 --> 00:36:35,520
that you actually bring up you know uh

1026
00:36:39,670 --> 00:36:37,680
what are the chances that there are

1027
00:36:40,390 --> 00:36:39,680
possibly other countries

1028
00:36:43,190 --> 00:36:40,400
like

1029
00:36:45,270 --> 00:36:43,200
china or russia we know china tried to

1030
00:36:46,310 --> 00:36:45,280
bring this to the united nations trying

1031
00:36:50,790 --> 00:36:46,320
to

1032
00:36:52,470 --> 00:36:50,800
disclosure i mean because really the

1033
00:36:55,829 --> 00:36:52,480
first one to bring that out was with

1034
00:36:57,990 --> 00:36:55,839
some proof or whatever um

1035
00:37:00,710 --> 00:36:58,000
kudos to the king i suppose right well

1036
00:37:02,470 --> 00:37:00,720
we know it's 100 certain that they know

1037
00:37:04,630 --> 00:37:02,480
the e.t president

1038
00:37:07,109 --> 00:37:04,640
so

1039
00:37:08,870 --> 00:37:07,119
there's no doubt i i i

1040
00:37:10,550 --> 00:37:08,880
i'm absolutely positive

1041
00:37:12,069 --> 00:37:10,560
that

1042
00:37:14,470 --> 00:37:12,079
china and russia

1043
00:37:15,990 --> 00:37:14,480
even china and the soviet union

1044
00:37:18,470 --> 00:37:16,000
and maybe a couple of other nations have

1045
00:37:21,430 --> 00:37:18,480
toyed with the idea of making that move

1046
00:37:23,990 --> 00:37:21,440
i i would be stunned if somehow history

1047
00:37:25,670 --> 00:37:24,000
writes 50 years from now no anything

1048
00:37:27,670 --> 00:37:25,680
about it no no no no problem it's like

1049
00:37:29,589 --> 00:37:27,680
they let the us do it we don't give a

1050
00:37:31,589 --> 00:37:29,599
[\h__\h] right no problem we're not in

1051
00:37:32,790 --> 00:37:31,599
competition with the united states you

1052
00:37:34,390 --> 00:37:32,800
know

1053
00:37:35,589 --> 00:37:34,400
we've never competed with them about

1054
00:37:37,589 --> 00:37:35,599
anything i mean why would we want to

1055
00:37:39,829 --> 00:37:37,599
compete about that i i would be pretty

1056
00:37:41,349 --> 00:37:39,839
shocked i think they have considered it

1057
00:37:43,750 --> 00:37:41,359
i think i understand the reasons why

1058
00:37:46,390 --> 00:37:43,760
they have chosen not to

1059
00:37:48,829 --> 00:37:46,400
but the past is not prologue

1060
00:37:53,270 --> 00:37:48,839
and so at the closer we

1061
00:37:56,230 --> 00:37:53,280
get the the likelihood of a rosy ruiz

1062
00:37:57,990 --> 00:37:56,240
country turning up increases

1063
00:37:59,750 --> 00:37:58,000
right uh which is mean

1064
00:38:02,230 --> 00:37:59,760
meaning that as we get closer to the

1065
00:38:05,109 --> 00:38:02,240
finish line we need to run faster not

1066
00:38:07,030 --> 00:38:05,119
slower now i could take a moment here

1067
00:38:08,710 --> 00:38:07,040
and ask if either one of you gentlemen

1068
00:38:10,710 --> 00:38:08,720
no what the hell i'm talking about when

1069
00:38:12,069 --> 00:38:10,720
i say rosie ruiz

1070
00:38:13,030 --> 00:38:12,079
i can kind of

1071
00:38:14,550 --> 00:38:13,040
uh

1072
00:38:16,829 --> 00:38:14,560
no

1073
00:38:19,270 --> 00:38:16,839
thank you how about you

1074
00:38:21,270 --> 00:38:19,280
jay all right you're victims of being

1075
00:38:22,710 --> 00:38:21,280
young sons of [\h__\h]

1076
00:38:24,390 --> 00:38:22,720
if you were old you would know what i

1077
00:38:27,270 --> 00:38:24,400
was talking about but you wouldn't be as

1078
00:38:29,190 --> 00:38:27,280
happy as you are now rosie i i assume

1079
00:38:31,829 --> 00:38:29,200
something like happy-go-lucky right

1080
00:38:33,030 --> 00:38:31,839
perhaps rosie is a legend for this

1081
00:38:35,430 --> 00:38:33,040
reason

1082
00:38:37,430 --> 00:38:35,440
and i i've forgotten the year again

1083
00:38:38,790 --> 00:38:37,440
i'm thinking 86

1084
00:38:40,630 --> 00:38:38,800
might have been somewhere in that

1085
00:38:42,390 --> 00:38:40,640
general vicinity 86 i think it was the

1086
00:38:44,950 --> 00:38:42,400
80s i'm pretty sure all right i was two

1087
00:38:46,550 --> 00:38:44,960
years old fair enough rosie reese

1088
00:38:47,829 --> 00:38:46,560
uh

1089
00:38:50,870 --> 00:38:47,839
entered the

1090
00:38:53,510 --> 00:38:50,880
the new york marathon which is yeah it's

1091
00:38:55,510 --> 00:38:53,520
the the lesser marathon you know

1092
00:38:57,190 --> 00:38:55,520
everybody watches the boston the boston

1093
00:38:58,790 --> 00:38:57,200
is the big marathon the new york yeah

1094
00:39:00,870 --> 00:38:58,800
it's a marathon okay yeah nothing gives

1095
00:39:02,150 --> 00:39:00,880
a [\h__\h] who wins it and so

1096
00:39:04,630 --> 00:39:02,160
so what she does is she enters the

1097
00:39:06,230 --> 00:39:04,640
boston marathon

1098
00:39:07,510 --> 00:39:06,240
and uh

1099
00:39:13,750 --> 00:39:07,520
she

1100
00:39:15,670 --> 00:39:13,760
to run the whole thing

1101
00:39:17,589 --> 00:39:15,680
and so

1102
00:39:19,349 --> 00:39:17,599
she works it out so she she crosses the

1103
00:39:20,150 --> 00:39:19,359
finish line

1104
00:39:23,190 --> 00:39:20,160
uh

1105
00:39:26,630 --> 00:39:23,200
with a a time good enough

1106
00:39:27,829 --> 00:39:26,640
to qualify for the boston marathon which

1107
00:39:29,670 --> 00:39:27,839
i mean it's not nobody's going to pay

1108
00:39:30,710 --> 00:39:29,680
attention to that nobody knows you know

1109
00:39:32,069 --> 00:39:30,720
what the boss you know what the new york

1110
00:39:33,670 --> 00:39:32,079
marathon is like

1111
00:39:35,349 --> 00:39:33,680
thousands of people everywhere what the

1112
00:39:37,190 --> 00:39:35,359
hell right yeah i see you yeah you you

1113
00:39:38,069 --> 00:39:37,200
get it you start then you're fine you go

1114
00:39:40,069 --> 00:39:38,079
ahead

1115
00:39:41,430 --> 00:39:40,079
and you get a cab and you go there and

1116
00:39:43,190 --> 00:39:41,440
so anyway see

1117
00:39:45,349 --> 00:39:43,200
so and so she gets this qualifying time

1118
00:39:47,589 --> 00:39:45,359
which is still way back in the pack but

1119
00:39:49,430 --> 00:39:47,599
that that's what she wanted

1120
00:39:51,349 --> 00:39:49,440
so that qualifying time got her into the

1121
00:39:53,109 --> 00:39:51,359
boston so she has head up to boston for

1122
00:39:54,550 --> 00:39:53,119
the boston marathon

1123
00:39:55,990 --> 00:39:54,560
okay fine

1124
00:39:58,230 --> 00:39:56,000
now this is a little different this is

1125
00:40:00,310 --> 00:39:58,240
big time all right

1126
00:40:02,390 --> 00:40:00,320
so she gets she has her bib she has

1127
00:40:03,430 --> 00:40:02,400
everything and so forth all right

1128
00:40:05,510 --> 00:40:03,440
and

1129
00:40:07,349 --> 00:40:05,520
off she goes

1130
00:40:09,190 --> 00:40:07,359
now

1131
00:40:10,390 --> 00:40:09,200
at some point some convenient point she

1132
00:40:13,589 --> 00:40:10,400
had a lot of time

1133
00:40:15,349 --> 00:40:13,599
she just kind of just kind of slips off

1134
00:40:16,630 --> 00:40:15,359
into the crowd you know it's not because

1135
00:40:18,150 --> 00:40:16,640
there's parts of the boston marathon

1136
00:40:19,589 --> 00:40:18,160
where there's there's not a there's not

1137
00:40:21,430 --> 00:40:19,599
even a lot of viewers it's not the whole

1138
00:40:23,349 --> 00:40:21,440
damn thing it just kind of slipped off

1139
00:40:25,190 --> 00:40:23,359
to the side maybe to go to the bathroom

1140
00:40:27,190 --> 00:40:25,200
takes off her bib takes over stuff maybe

1141
00:40:29,670 --> 00:40:27,200
puts on a shirt whatever gets a cab

1142
00:40:31,589 --> 00:40:29,680
heads on down to i don't know

1143
00:40:34,390 --> 00:40:31,599
a couple thousand yards maybe a thousand

1144
00:40:36,230 --> 00:40:34,400
yards or something from the finish line

1145
00:40:38,390 --> 00:40:36,240
kind of just kind of you know moving

1146
00:40:39,990 --> 00:40:38,400
around whatever puts a bib back on and

1147
00:40:41,910 --> 00:40:40,000
so forth without really showing it and

1148
00:40:44,390 --> 00:40:41,920
then just slips into the race

1149
00:40:45,829 --> 00:40:44,400
and off she goes

1150
00:40:48,950 --> 00:40:45,839
now

1151
00:40:51,109 --> 00:40:48,960
she made a couple of mistakes

1152
00:40:53,109 --> 00:40:51,119
i mean so far so good she's doing well

1153
00:40:54,870 --> 00:40:53,119
it's it's a brilliant plan a great plan

1154
00:40:56,790 --> 00:40:54,880
i love this plan

1155
00:40:59,109 --> 00:40:56,800
but the mistake she made

1156
00:41:01,349 --> 00:40:59,119
is that while you can easily track the

1157
00:41:03,349 --> 00:41:01,359
uh lead mail runner

1158
00:41:05,430 --> 00:41:03,359
the number one female runner is

1159
00:41:06,710 --> 00:41:05,440
obviously back in the pack with a lot of

1160
00:41:09,030 --> 00:41:06,720
people

1161
00:41:11,750 --> 00:41:09,040
and however she was trying to determine

1162
00:41:12,950 --> 00:41:11,760
where that woman was

1163
00:41:14,710 --> 00:41:12,960
she

1164
00:41:15,829 --> 00:41:14,720
kind of

1165
00:41:17,990 --> 00:41:15,839
over

1166
00:41:18,870 --> 00:41:18,000
compensated and so she gets into the

1167
00:41:21,270 --> 00:41:18,880
race

1168
00:41:22,710 --> 00:41:21,280
she cruises and she crosses the finish

1169
00:41:25,829 --> 00:41:22,720
line and she wins

1170
00:41:28,870 --> 00:41:25,839
the women's boston marathon now the

1171
00:41:31,750 --> 00:41:28,880
reason why i said it was a mistake

1172
00:41:35,270 --> 00:41:31,760
is because she didn't just win it she

1173
00:41:37,510 --> 00:41:35,280
set the record

1174
00:41:38,390 --> 00:41:37,520
marathon okay

1175
00:41:40,950 --> 00:41:38,400
now

1176
00:41:42,470 --> 00:41:40,960
she gets remember the men are already

1177
00:41:45,270 --> 00:41:42,480
coming through the race is still going

1178
00:41:46,950 --> 00:41:45,280
on that the the other man so so but

1179
00:41:49,030 --> 00:41:46,960
there's a ceremony they get her up they

1180
00:41:51,589 --> 00:41:49,040
bring her up on a stage platform and

1181
00:41:53,270 --> 00:41:51,599
they give her the trophy

1182
00:41:55,510 --> 00:41:53,280
uh or the medal

1183
00:41:58,470 --> 00:41:55,520
is the winner of the boston marathon

1184
00:41:59,430 --> 00:41:58,480
now here's the second mistake she made

1185
00:42:11,510 --> 00:41:59,440
she

1186
00:42:13,109 --> 00:42:11,520
a marathon before but

1187
00:42:14,550 --> 00:42:13,119
so she's upstanding up there and there's

1188
00:42:15,990 --> 00:42:14,560
a whole lot of professional runners

1189
00:42:17,349 --> 00:42:16,000
standing around watching her get the

1190
00:42:18,309 --> 00:42:17,359
medal

1191
00:42:20,470 --> 00:42:18,319
and they're

1192
00:42:22,710 --> 00:42:20,480
they're looking at her real hard

1193
00:42:24,950 --> 00:42:22,720
and you know metaphorically what they're

1194
00:42:26,470 --> 00:42:24,960
doing is they're nudging each other

1195
00:42:27,829 --> 00:42:26,480
and turning to each other and they're

1196
00:42:29,829 --> 00:42:27,839
saying

1197
00:42:32,470 --> 00:42:29,839
there is no way that somebody with those

1198
00:42:36,390 --> 00:42:34,230
for the women's master marathon i'm

1199
00:42:38,230 --> 00:42:36,400
sorry those calves did not do that

1200
00:42:39,910 --> 00:42:38,240
something is not right here and so

1201
00:42:41,910 --> 00:42:39,920
somebody start to bring it up and it

1202
00:42:43,750 --> 00:42:41,920
gets into play it gets to the officials

1203
00:42:47,910 --> 00:42:43,760
and they're going oh god what's going on

1204
00:42:50,950 --> 00:42:49,270
and they determine

1205
00:42:53,349 --> 00:42:50,960
that in fact

1206
00:42:56,309 --> 00:42:53,359
she didn't win the race and so the

1207
00:42:59,270 --> 00:42:56,319
uh the actual medal went to the other

1208
00:43:01,190 --> 00:42:59,280
woman who nobody knows

1209
00:43:03,829 --> 00:43:01,200
will never know you'll have to go into

1210
00:43:05,750 --> 00:43:03,839
google for hours to find her name rosie

1211
00:43:08,790 --> 00:43:05,760
on the other hand went down

1212
00:43:10,470 --> 00:43:08,800
in history i completely forgot how this

1213
00:43:11,510 --> 00:43:10,480
had to do with what we were talking

1214
00:43:13,990 --> 00:43:11,520
about

1215
00:43:15,670 --> 00:43:14,000
good good that way you'll be that much

1216
00:43:16,630 --> 00:43:15,680
more entertaining

1217
00:43:19,270 --> 00:43:16,640
and so

1218
00:43:21,430 --> 00:43:19,280
as we get down toward the finish line

1219
00:43:22,790 --> 00:43:21,440
there is nothing to stop another nation

1220
00:43:23,990 --> 00:43:22,800
and say okay you guys have done all the

1221
00:43:25,829 --> 00:43:24,000
heavy work

1222
00:43:27,510 --> 00:43:25,839
yep yeah you've done it all all the

1223
00:43:29,510 --> 00:43:27,520
activists the united states you got the

1224
00:43:30,470 --> 00:43:29,520
media you got this you know you get

1225
00:43:32,150 --> 00:43:30,480
ready to have the hearings and

1226
00:43:34,470 --> 00:43:32,160
everything thank you so much

1227
00:43:35,990 --> 00:43:34,480
boom uh we go forward from the american

1228
00:43:37,430 --> 00:43:36,000
people yeah we got some crash vehicles

1229
00:43:39,670 --> 00:43:37,440
we got the evidence we got this we got

1230
00:43:41,670 --> 00:43:39,680
gun camera footage and here it is

1231
00:43:42,870 --> 00:43:41,680
the fine righteous nature of france

1232
00:43:45,190 --> 00:43:42,880
telling the world that there is an

1233
00:43:46,550 --> 00:43:45,200
extraterrestrial presence and the u.s is

1234
00:43:48,550 --> 00:43:46,560
still holding the hearings or maybe he

1235
00:43:49,589 --> 00:43:48,560
hasn't even started the hearings that's

1236
00:43:52,069 --> 00:43:49,599
what i mean

1237
00:43:54,550 --> 00:43:52,079
by rosie ruiz country

1238
00:43:57,510 --> 00:43:54,560
and i say i've said it hundreds of times

1239
00:44:00,150 --> 00:43:57,520
over the last 15 years why

1240
00:44:02,710 --> 00:44:00,160
because the us government

1241
00:44:04,870 --> 00:44:02,720
has kind of gotten hard-headed

1242
00:44:07,349 --> 00:44:04,880
it's you know thick

1243
00:44:09,670 --> 00:44:07,359
it's like if the government was a

1244
00:44:11,829 --> 00:44:09,680
brain i mean it was a head

1245
00:44:14,309 --> 00:44:11,839
over the years the thickness of the

1246
00:44:16,390 --> 00:44:14,319
skull is now up to like two inches thick

1247
00:44:18,550 --> 00:44:16,400
you know it's equivalent of like 18 foot

1248
00:44:19,270 --> 00:44:18,560
walls of the city of troy

1249
00:44:21,430 --> 00:44:19,280
and

1250
00:44:23,750 --> 00:44:21,440
there's nothing you could do to get

1251
00:44:24,790 --> 00:44:23,760
anything in there have you noticed

1252
00:44:26,069 --> 00:44:24,800
in other words if you need to get

1253
00:44:28,550 --> 00:44:26,079
something done you got to get something

1254
00:44:30,309 --> 00:44:28,560
into that you know the congress's skull

1255
00:44:31,990 --> 00:44:30,319
well it's three inches thick now and

1256
00:44:34,150 --> 00:44:32,000
it'll take a baseball bat and that won't

1257
00:44:35,829 --> 00:44:34,160
even do it that's why the us is kind of

1258
00:44:36,950 --> 00:44:35,839
right now going into the crapper but i

1259
00:44:38,950 --> 00:44:36,960
don't want to go there because that's

1260
00:44:40,309 --> 00:44:38,960
all another subject i want to do that

1261
00:44:41,670 --> 00:44:40,319
i'm not going to go there

1262
00:44:43,670 --> 00:44:41,680
but

1263
00:44:44,790 --> 00:44:43,680
that is the situation

1264
00:44:47,190 --> 00:44:44,800
20 years

1265
00:44:49,349 --> 00:44:47,200
i'm hoping they finally listen

1266
00:44:52,630 --> 00:44:49,359
uh because look

1267
00:44:54,390 --> 00:44:52,640
uh we don't run the rest of the world

1268
00:44:56,230 --> 00:44:54,400
we bomb a lot of the rest of the world

1269
00:44:57,430 --> 00:44:56,240
but we don't run them

1270
00:44:58,870 --> 00:44:57,440
we

1271
00:45:00,950 --> 00:44:58,880
you know

1272
00:45:03,670 --> 00:45:00,960
suck money and resources out of part of

1273
00:45:05,270 --> 00:45:03,680
the world but we don't run them okay

1274
00:45:07,670 --> 00:45:05,280
we have a uh

1275
00:45:10,630 --> 00:45:07,680
a kind of a race with uh

1276
00:45:12,950 --> 00:45:10,640
uh china to make the most money which i

1277
00:45:14,470 --> 00:45:12,960
don't understand i i hope china makes as

1278
00:45:15,270 --> 00:45:14,480
much money as it can the more money it

1279
00:45:17,349 --> 00:45:15,280
makes

1280
00:45:19,030 --> 00:45:17,359
the the the better society and and the

1281
00:45:20,230 --> 00:45:19,040
happier the people and the less problems

1282
00:45:21,829 --> 00:45:20,240
we're going to have but no no they're

1283
00:45:24,230 --> 00:45:21,839
making more money than us they're our

1284
00:45:25,670 --> 00:45:24,240
enemy but we don't control them

1285
00:45:27,430 --> 00:45:25,680
and as far as

1286
00:45:30,230 --> 00:45:27,440
russia is concerned well

1287
00:45:31,349 --> 00:45:30,240
we don't control russia either

1288
00:45:32,870 --> 00:45:31,359
and so

1289
00:45:34,150 --> 00:45:32,880
we need to grow up

1290
00:45:36,950 --> 00:45:34,160
as a nation

1291
00:45:38,950 --> 00:45:36,960
and realize not only are we we are not

1292
00:45:41,349 --> 00:45:38,960
the utter exceptional nation in this

1293
00:45:43,030 --> 00:45:41,359
world not even close we have good points

1294
00:45:45,510 --> 00:45:43,040
and our bad points right we don't

1295
00:45:46,790 --> 00:45:45,520
control the world not even close

1296
00:45:49,430 --> 00:45:46,800
and guess what

1297
00:45:51,910 --> 00:45:49,440
we're not even the only sentient species

1298
00:45:54,790 --> 00:45:51,920
in this world there are the species

1299
00:45:56,630 --> 00:45:54,800
other technologies and we need to stop

1300
00:45:57,910 --> 00:45:56,640
with the nonsense the foolishness the

1301
00:46:00,950 --> 00:45:57,920
obstruction

1302
00:46:03,109 --> 00:46:00,960
and and grow up and be adults

1303
00:46:05,430 --> 00:46:03,119
recognizing reality

1304
00:46:07,270 --> 00:46:05,440
other species other technologies

1305
00:46:09,109 --> 00:46:07,280
extraterrestrials and so forth

1306
00:46:11,750 --> 00:46:09,119
recognizing the realities of the modern

1307
00:46:14,390 --> 00:46:11,760
world you cannot operate in the 21st

1308
00:46:15,190 --> 00:46:14,400
century as if it's the 19th century all

1309
00:46:16,950 --> 00:46:15,200
right

1310
00:46:19,030 --> 00:46:16,960
or even most of the 20th century that's

1311
00:46:20,790 --> 00:46:19,040
no longer possible anymore right and yet

1312
00:46:22,309 --> 00:46:20,800
we're actually regressing

1313
00:46:23,109 --> 00:46:22,319
right we're actually trying to move back

1314
00:46:25,109 --> 00:46:23,119
now

1315
00:46:27,270 --> 00:46:25,119
maybe we'll get back to the 11th century

1316
00:46:29,910 --> 00:46:27,280
that was a cool time

1317
00:46:31,349 --> 00:46:29,920
and and and i happen to think that the

1318
00:46:34,150 --> 00:46:31,359
disclosure process and everything

1319
00:46:35,990 --> 00:46:34,160
involved in it and how it comes about

1320
00:46:38,790 --> 00:46:36,000
is about the most maturing thing that

1321
00:46:39,589 --> 00:46:38,800
could happen to us right now

1322
00:46:42,550 --> 00:46:39,599
yeah

1323
00:46:44,550 --> 00:46:42,560
i think you're right especially with the

1324
00:46:46,470 --> 00:46:44,560
social media technology the fabric of

1325
00:46:48,790 --> 00:46:46,480
human society just kind of frank jay did

1326
00:46:49,750 --> 00:46:48,800
you have any uh questions for from mr

1327
00:46:51,510 --> 00:46:49,760
bassett

1328
00:46:54,790 --> 00:46:51,520
sure um

1329
00:46:57,190 --> 00:46:54,800
now as we're talking about um other

1330
00:46:58,790 --> 00:46:57,200
other nations joining the conversation

1331
00:47:02,630 --> 00:46:58,800
in terms of the brazilian senate

1332
00:47:04,710 --> 00:47:02,640
hearings on june 24th with robert salas

1333
00:47:06,470 --> 00:47:04,720
testifying louis alzando making an

1334
00:47:07,910 --> 00:47:06,480
appearance for those that are joining

1335
00:47:10,470 --> 00:47:07,920
late

1336
00:47:12,309 --> 00:47:10,480
do you foresee or have you heard about

1337
00:47:15,750 --> 00:47:12,319
any other countries joining the

1338
00:47:17,910 --> 00:47:15,760
conversation and do you see any openings

1339
00:47:21,109 --> 00:47:17,920
that there that that could create in

1340
00:47:22,950 --> 00:47:21,119
terms of leverage or more open dialogue

1341
00:47:24,710 --> 00:47:22,960
in this kind of situation i think what

1342
00:47:26,950 --> 00:47:24,720
you mean by joining the conversation is

1343
00:47:30,390 --> 00:47:26,960
formally like through their head of

1344
00:47:32,710 --> 00:47:30,400
state or their legislative body

1345
00:47:34,230 --> 00:47:32,720
there has been a little of that

1346
00:47:37,430 --> 00:47:34,240
not much

1347
00:47:39,030 --> 00:47:37,440
most of it has been uh ngos

1348
00:47:40,870 --> 00:47:39,040
um

1349
00:47:42,230 --> 00:47:40,880
for instance

1350
00:47:46,150 --> 00:47:42,240
you had the

1351
00:47:48,549 --> 00:47:46,160
uh was an organization in france

1352
00:47:49,349 --> 00:47:48,559
who's i don't have the name handy

1353
00:47:50,870 --> 00:47:49,359
but

1354
00:47:52,630 --> 00:47:50,880
it ultimately issued a report called the

1355
00:47:54,950 --> 00:47:52,640
cometo report

1356
00:47:56,470 --> 00:47:54,960
and so at that point in a way france was

1357
00:47:57,670 --> 00:47:56,480
entering the conversation

1358
00:47:59,829 --> 00:47:57,680
but it wasn't coming from the french

1359
00:48:01,430 --> 00:47:59,839
president or the french parliament

1360
00:48:02,790 --> 00:48:01,440
uh

1361
00:48:04,069 --> 00:48:02,800
you've had some actions on the part of

1362
00:48:06,069 --> 00:48:04,079
some south american countries

1363
00:48:06,950 --> 00:48:06,079
particularly their military where they

1364
00:48:09,670 --> 00:48:06,960
set up

1365
00:48:11,910 --> 00:48:09,680
a an investigation a uap investigation

1366
00:48:13,750 --> 00:48:11,920
uh operation within like their air force

1367
00:48:15,109 --> 00:48:13,760
it's kind of a

1368
00:48:16,790 --> 00:48:15,119
conversation

1369
00:48:18,950 --> 00:48:16,800
um

1370
00:48:21,349 --> 00:48:18,960
but if you were to

1371
00:48:23,510 --> 00:48:21,359
you know just if you think back over the

1372
00:48:26,470 --> 00:48:23,520
last many years

1373
00:48:28,950 --> 00:48:26,480
how many heads of state

1374
00:48:32,150 --> 00:48:28,960
have said anything about this issue

1375
00:48:37,430 --> 00:48:35,510
uh one is ronald reagan all right he he

1376
00:48:39,829 --> 00:48:37,440
he said something uh

1377
00:48:42,069 --> 00:48:39,839
kind of late in his terms

1378
00:48:44,790 --> 00:48:42,079
when he talked about uh you know it was

1379
00:48:47,030 --> 00:48:44,800
kind of like uh adjunct to the whole sdi

1380
00:48:49,349 --> 00:48:47,040
program and star wars strategic defense

1381
00:48:50,950 --> 00:48:49,359
in israel space whatever it was called

1382
00:48:52,150 --> 00:48:50,960
uh about how we could all come together

1383
00:48:54,150 --> 00:48:52,160
if there were extraterrestrials there

1384
00:48:56,309 --> 00:48:54,160
okay jimmy carter talked about the

1385
00:48:58,309 --> 00:48:56,319
phenomena before he was president and a

1386
00:49:00,069 --> 00:48:58,319
little bit after he was president tried

1387
00:49:01,270 --> 00:49:00,079
to do something about it in the pentagon

1388
00:49:04,150 --> 00:49:01,280
and uh

1389
00:49:06,710 --> 00:49:04,160
and his uh cia director pretty much said

1390
00:49:08,150 --> 00:49:06,720
jimmy no no don't do that

1391
00:49:09,750 --> 00:49:08,160
we don't want to hurt you we don't hurt

1392
00:49:12,230 --> 00:49:09,760
you jimmy well there's something about

1393
00:49:14,950 --> 00:49:12,240
republicans uh you know a theory that

1394
00:49:17,109 --> 00:49:14,960
republicans get more information on

1395
00:49:19,430 --> 00:49:17,119
this kind of stuff when when they're in

1396
00:49:21,190 --> 00:49:19,440
office because they have more of a

1397
00:49:23,910 --> 00:49:21,200
um

1398
00:49:24,950 --> 00:49:23,920
a better relationship with the uh

1399
00:49:27,750 --> 00:49:24,960
defense

1400
00:49:29,349 --> 00:49:27,760
industrial complex so to speak

1401
00:49:31,030 --> 00:49:29,359
they may get more information at the

1402
00:49:32,870 --> 00:49:31,040
cocktail parties

1403
00:49:34,309 --> 00:49:32,880
technically all the information that

1404
00:49:36,470 --> 00:49:34,319
congress gets of a classified nature

1405
00:49:37,910 --> 00:49:36,480
always goes to both parties

1406
00:49:39,589 --> 00:49:37,920
right

1407
00:49:42,150 --> 00:49:39,599
but in terms of getting tipped off at a

1408
00:49:43,910 --> 00:49:42,160
cocktail party after a few drinks

1409
00:49:45,910 --> 00:49:43,920
probably it's more likely a republican

1410
00:49:47,910 --> 00:49:45,920
congressman is our senator is going to

1411
00:49:49,270 --> 00:49:47,920
have that that chat off in the corner

1412
00:49:51,190 --> 00:49:49,280
you know by the way senator are you

1413
00:49:51,990 --> 00:49:51,200
aware that day

1414
00:49:53,670 --> 00:49:52,000
uh

1415
00:49:55,190 --> 00:49:53,680
because they they have been by and large

1416
00:49:57,109 --> 00:49:55,200
more supportive

1417
00:49:59,750 --> 00:49:57,119
of the military intelligence complex and

1418
00:50:00,950 --> 00:49:59,760
its budgets right nothing surprising

1419
00:50:02,230 --> 00:50:00,960
about that

1420
00:50:03,589 --> 00:50:02,240
um

1421
00:50:07,670 --> 00:50:03,599
not that there are plenty of democrats

1422
00:50:09,109 --> 00:50:07,680
that are quite supportive sure but um so

1423
00:50:14,870 --> 00:50:09,119
so

1424
00:50:16,870 --> 00:50:14,880
that the republican hierarchy

1425
00:50:19,750 --> 00:50:16,880
particularly the high-end people

1426
00:50:21,030 --> 00:50:19,760
uh i think military intelligence complex

1427
00:50:24,150 --> 00:50:21,040
uh

1428
00:50:26,390 --> 00:50:24,160
in general i mean this is not a start a

1429
00:50:28,230 --> 00:50:26,400
definitely stark thing difference is a

1430
00:50:29,589 --> 00:50:28,240
little more inclined toward them right

1431
00:50:31,589 --> 00:50:29,599
they appreciate their support and

1432
00:50:33,349 --> 00:50:31,599
everything else which is why it's very

1433
00:50:35,510 --> 00:50:33,359
notable

1434
00:50:38,470 --> 00:50:35,520
that if you look at the the developments

1435
00:50:39,349 --> 00:50:38,480
of the last four years

1436
00:50:40,790 --> 00:50:39,359
the

1437
00:50:42,390 --> 00:50:40,800
republican

1438
00:50:44,630 --> 00:50:42,400
congress

1439
00:50:47,349 --> 00:50:44,640
and the republican news

1440
00:50:48,790 --> 00:50:47,359
has been far out in front of the

1441
00:50:51,109 --> 00:50:48,800
democrat

1442
00:50:52,510 --> 00:50:51,119
progressive left news

1443
00:50:54,790 --> 00:50:52,520
all right

1444
00:50:57,030 --> 00:50:54,800
substantially uh

1445
00:50:58,309 --> 00:50:57,040
i just all i have to do is say tucker

1446
00:51:00,309 --> 00:50:58,319
carlson all right

1447
00:51:01,349 --> 00:51:00,319
you go but that's not the only case of

1448
00:51:06,230 --> 00:51:01,359
that

1449
00:51:08,549 --> 00:51:06,240
if

1450
00:51:10,790 --> 00:51:08,559
very you know extremely high profile

1451
00:51:13,349 --> 00:51:10,800
people on the right

1452
00:51:15,270 --> 00:51:13,359
are engaging this issue

1453
00:51:17,910 --> 00:51:15,280
given their connections to the military

1454
00:51:20,150 --> 00:51:17,920
intelligence complex overall

1455
00:51:22,549 --> 00:51:20,160
that would incline one to think

1456
00:51:25,349 --> 00:51:22,559
that they've been green lighted

1457
00:51:27,109 --> 00:51:25,359
meaning yeah we're cool with that yeah

1458
00:51:28,630 --> 00:51:27,119
if it's going to come out let it begin

1459
00:51:29,990 --> 00:51:28,640
with you my friend

1460
00:51:31,990 --> 00:51:30,000
right you'll be you know the

1461
00:51:34,150 --> 00:51:32,000
spokesperson

1462
00:51:36,150 --> 00:51:34,160
and interesting no it's still bipartisan

1463
00:51:37,990 --> 00:51:36,160
too anything

1464
00:51:40,549 --> 00:51:38,000
interesting how it remains bipartisan

1465
00:51:43,349 --> 00:51:40,559
because anything tucker carlson touches

1466
00:51:45,670 --> 00:51:43,359
i mean would just be poisoned to to cnn

1467
00:51:49,030 --> 00:51:45,680
basically but yet it's not like this is

1468
00:51:52,309 --> 00:51:51,030
look here let me tell you

1469
00:51:54,630 --> 00:51:52,319
tucker carlson is one of the most

1470
00:51:56,470 --> 00:51:54,640
divisive people in all of media okay

1471
00:51:59,030 --> 00:51:56,480
period okay

1472
00:52:00,470 --> 00:51:59,040
he he he again mainstream media i mean

1473
00:52:02,069 --> 00:52:00,480
there you know you get down on the weird

1474
00:52:04,069 --> 00:52:02,079
and the weeds people say things that are

1475
00:52:05,829 --> 00:52:04,079
beyond outrageous but in terms of

1476
00:52:07,430 --> 00:52:05,839
mainstream honest he's the most

1477
00:52:09,990 --> 00:52:07,440
outrageous most controversial most

1478
00:52:13,270 --> 00:52:12,069
he makes 35 million dollars a year doing

1479
00:52:15,109 --> 00:52:13,280
that

1480
00:52:16,630 --> 00:52:15,119
and his estimated net worth is 400 to

1481
00:52:18,950 --> 00:52:16,640
500 million dollars

1482
00:52:21,430 --> 00:52:18,960
okay now

1483
00:52:22,950 --> 00:52:21,440
however the downside of that is this guy

1484
00:52:26,069 --> 00:52:22,960
gets hate mail

1485
00:52:27,270 --> 00:52:26,079
it's delivered to him in large vans okay

1486
00:52:29,190 --> 00:52:27,280
baskets of it they're put on his

1487
00:52:31,030 --> 00:52:29,200
doorstep that's a metaphor you get my

1488
00:52:32,950 --> 00:52:31,040
point though right yeah

1489
00:52:34,549 --> 00:52:32,960
uh but you know

1490
00:52:36,309 --> 00:52:34,559
35 million dollars a year you know i can

1491
00:52:37,510 --> 00:52:36,319
handle a little hate mail right

1492
00:52:39,910 --> 00:52:37,520
yeah tell me how much you hate man i

1493
00:52:41,750 --> 00:52:39,920
don't give a crap right

1494
00:52:44,069 --> 00:52:41,760
i'll uh i'll think about that as i you

1495
00:52:45,510 --> 00:52:44,079
know uh buy my next yacht

1496
00:52:46,470 --> 00:52:45,520
uh

1497
00:52:49,109 --> 00:52:46,480
but

1498
00:52:50,870 --> 00:52:49,119
i am positive that when tucker carlson

1499
00:52:52,309 --> 00:52:50,880
went into this issue

1500
00:52:54,390 --> 00:52:52,319
clean

1501
00:52:55,589 --> 00:52:54,400
with no partisan angle

1502
00:52:57,349 --> 00:52:55,599
i mean i've watched the initial

1503
00:52:59,670 --> 00:52:57,359
statements i've seen him since

1504
00:53:02,069 --> 00:52:59,680
there is he absolutely not partisan

1505
00:53:03,030 --> 00:53:02,079
right he does not in any way use it

1506
00:53:07,910 --> 00:53:03,040
to

1507
00:53:10,549 --> 00:53:07,920
i'm positive that when he did that he

1508
00:53:12,069 --> 00:53:10,559
started getting love mail

1509
00:53:14,549 --> 00:53:12,079
he started getting mail from people

1510
00:53:16,549 --> 00:53:14,559
emails from people saying wow thank you

1511
00:53:18,710 --> 00:53:16,559
got it we needed that it's a time

1512
00:53:20,630 --> 00:53:18,720
somebody told the truth man really

1513
00:53:22,710 --> 00:53:20,640
appreciate that thank you very much

1514
00:53:25,270 --> 00:53:22,720
maybe even from people who are not on in

1515
00:53:28,150 --> 00:53:25,280
the same political arena that he's in

1516
00:53:29,589 --> 00:53:28,160
and i'm sure that he's going you know i

1517
00:53:32,069 --> 00:53:29,599
like getting love letters a little

1518
00:53:34,710 --> 00:53:32,079
endorphins are popping off yeah i mean i

1519
00:53:35,510 --> 00:53:34,720
i uh you know this is kind of nice you

1520
00:53:39,670 --> 00:53:35,520
know

1521
00:53:42,309 --> 00:53:39,680
issues he's gonna get it

1522
00:53:45,670 --> 00:53:42,319
but this is different this is not

1523
00:53:47,589 --> 00:53:45,680
tuckery i i love you man i i know you're

1524
00:53:49,109 --> 00:53:47,599
going to crush the democrats and grind

1525
00:53:51,190 --> 00:53:49,119
them into mulch you know and we're going

1526
00:53:52,950 --> 00:53:51,200
to take back no this is email cooker

1527
00:53:54,230 --> 00:53:52,960
that is fantastic journalism you're

1528
00:53:55,030 --> 00:53:54,240
doing the right thing you're telling the

1529
00:53:56,470 --> 00:53:55,040
truth

1530
00:53:57,720 --> 00:53:56,480
thank you so much and he's going oh man

1531
00:53:59,910 --> 00:53:57,730
it feels good

1532
00:54:01,990 --> 00:53:59,920
[Laughter]

1533
00:54:03,270 --> 00:54:02,000
so he did some more and he got more mail

1534
00:54:05,829 --> 00:54:03,280
good mail and did some more you have an

1535
00:54:08,950 --> 00:54:05,839
argument addicting isn't it

1536
00:54:10,470 --> 00:54:08,960
other journalists they they saw that

1537
00:54:11,750 --> 00:54:10,480
yeah you know they knew they saw what's

1538
00:54:12,950 --> 00:54:11,760
going on he's not the only one where

1539
00:54:14,390 --> 00:54:12,960
that's happened to

1540
00:54:16,150 --> 00:54:14,400
they have found

1541
00:54:18,309 --> 00:54:16,160
hillary clinton found but she didn't she

1542
00:54:19,750 --> 00:54:18,319
didn't she didn't understand it

1543
00:54:22,230 --> 00:54:19,760
hillary clinton is running for president

1544
00:54:23,430 --> 00:54:22,240
and she's having forced by me frankly i

1545
00:54:25,710 --> 00:54:23,440
mean i'm the one that drove the damn

1546
00:54:28,790 --> 00:54:25,720
news news coverage 500

1547
00:54:30,309 --> 00:54:28,800
410 articles in the mainstream media

1548
00:54:32,390 --> 00:54:30,319
about her connection to the e.t issue

1549
00:54:34,150 --> 00:54:32,400
while she's running for president

1550
00:54:35,829 --> 00:54:34,160
and then she makes statements

1551
00:54:39,510 --> 00:54:35,839
she didn't get any blow back

1552
00:54:42,069 --> 00:54:39,520
she did not get any go back on that or

1553
00:54:43,349 --> 00:54:42,079
shade of any significance at all she got

1554
00:54:45,109 --> 00:54:43,359
blow back on a whole bunch of other

1555
00:54:46,630 --> 00:54:45,119
things but not that

1556
00:54:48,870 --> 00:54:46,640
and she didn't get it if she had

1557
00:54:51,430 --> 00:54:48,880
understood wait a minute this is a big

1558
00:54:53,990 --> 00:54:51,440
deal people want some truth on this and

1559
00:54:55,510 --> 00:54:54,000
it gone full in and i assure you there's

1560
00:54:57,109 --> 00:54:55,520
so much she could have done she would

1561
00:54:59,589 --> 00:54:57,119
have been president but she didn't get

1562
00:55:02,150 --> 00:54:59,599
it but tucker carlson got it and others

1563
00:55:04,630 --> 00:55:02,160
are getting it this issue is no longer

1564
00:55:07,109 --> 00:55:04,640
toxic or radioactive this issue is in

1565
00:55:09,349 --> 00:55:07,119
fact cuts to the heart of one of the

1566
00:55:11,670 --> 00:55:09,359
biggest problems the united states has

1567
00:55:13,510 --> 00:55:11,680
is that people are starving to death

1568
00:55:15,349 --> 00:55:13,520
from authenticity

1569
00:55:17,270 --> 00:55:15,359
people who authentically just tell them

1570
00:55:18,950 --> 00:55:17,280
what the hell the truth is

1571
00:55:21,349 --> 00:55:18,960
it's there's it's like it's like going

1572
00:55:23,910 --> 00:55:21,359
you know years decades without any water

1573
00:55:25,990 --> 00:55:23,920
okay somebody hands you a thimble you

1574
00:55:28,150 --> 00:55:26,000
get down and on your knees and thank

1575
00:55:29,589 --> 00:55:28,160
them all right and and this lack of

1576
00:55:31,109 --> 00:55:29,599
authenticity and the distrust of

1577
00:55:34,230 --> 00:55:31,119
developing government is literally

1578
00:55:35,829 --> 00:55:34,240
grinding the the ship of state to uh to

1579
00:55:38,069 --> 00:55:35,839
a halt okay

1580
00:55:39,510 --> 00:55:38,079
uh leaving in a drifted sea with giant

1581
00:55:42,230 --> 00:55:39,520
storms coming

1582
00:55:44,230 --> 00:55:42,240
this this issue is a way to to free that

1583
00:55:46,870 --> 00:55:44,240
up it's a way to change that narrative

1584
00:55:49,510 --> 00:55:46,880
in a big way because it's a big truth

1585
00:55:51,190 --> 00:55:49,520
it's a complex thing to say and i i know

1586
00:55:53,349 --> 00:55:51,200
a lot of people in government are that

1587
00:55:55,270 --> 00:55:53,359
might hear this or going i have no idea

1588
00:55:56,549 --> 00:55:55,280
what the hell he's talking about but i

1589
00:55:58,470 --> 00:55:56,559
happen to believe it

1590
00:56:01,190 --> 00:55:58,480
no i i believe it too and we kind of saw

1591
00:56:02,870 --> 00:56:01,200
the the negat you know

1592
00:56:05,829 --> 00:56:02,880
when you're that desperate you'll drink

1593
00:56:07,670 --> 00:56:05,839
dirty water let's say that

1594
00:56:10,230 --> 00:56:07,680
yeah that's good and and the thing about

1595
00:56:12,710 --> 00:56:10,240
the thing about water dirty water

1596
00:56:15,750 --> 00:56:12,720
is you you can have a flowing

1597
00:56:18,230 --> 00:56:15,760
river just lots and lots of water but

1598
00:56:20,309 --> 00:56:18,240
you put enough pollution in it

1599
00:56:21,990 --> 00:56:20,319
and none of it's drinkable

1600
00:56:24,069 --> 00:56:22,000
i mean you can't you can't just you

1601
00:56:26,309 --> 00:56:24,079
can't just you know grab a glass of that

1602
00:56:28,829 --> 00:56:26,319
that polluted river water and go okay

1603
00:56:30,870 --> 00:56:28,839
i'm just going to drink the good stuff

1604
00:56:31,750 --> 00:56:30,880
now that's what's happening with the

1605
00:56:33,829 --> 00:56:31,760
internet

1606
00:56:36,549 --> 00:56:33,839
it is an information stream that is now

1607
00:56:39,430 --> 00:56:36,559
sufficiently polluted that you you can't

1608
00:56:42,870 --> 00:56:39,440
even dip in to hopefully get

1609
00:56:44,549 --> 00:56:42,880
the good stuff without getting poisoned

1610
00:56:45,990 --> 00:56:44,559
and this is a whole another problem

1611
00:56:47,990 --> 00:56:46,000
we're facing you know

1612
00:56:49,750 --> 00:56:48,000
we don't want to go there yeah i can't

1613
00:56:51,430 --> 00:56:49,760
solve all the problems folks i can't get

1614
00:56:55,510 --> 00:56:51,440
the disclosure but the rest you're on

1615
00:56:55,520 --> 00:57:02,390
i appreciate that very much

1616
00:57:06,309 --> 00:57:03,990
sure um

1617
00:57:08,470 --> 00:57:06,319
now you know

1618
00:57:09,670 --> 00:57:08,480
okay just to switch gears for a minute

1619
00:57:12,230 --> 00:57:09,680
since we're getting towards the end of

1620
00:57:15,109 --> 00:57:12,240
the hour you know there was this recent

1621
00:57:16,549 --> 00:57:15,119
scu conference down in huntsville right

1622
00:57:19,270 --> 00:57:16,559
this last weekend

1623
00:57:21,109 --> 00:57:19,280
now does huntsville alabama mean much to

1624
00:57:23,910 --> 00:57:21,119
you when we talk about disclosure

1625
00:57:26,150 --> 00:57:23,920
initiatives and advanced technology

1626
00:57:28,870 --> 00:57:26,160
it doesn't i mean not not particularly

1627
00:57:31,270 --> 00:57:28,880
uh it is a center for

1628
00:57:32,870 --> 00:57:31,280
uh uh it has a historical connection to

1629
00:57:35,030 --> 00:57:32,880
obviously the nuclear issue and and

1630
00:57:37,109 --> 00:57:35,040
that's non-trivial because the nuclear

1631
00:57:38,230 --> 00:57:37,119
issue may be the most significant thing

1632
00:57:40,470 --> 00:57:38,240
about our connection to the

1633
00:57:42,150 --> 00:57:40,480
extraterrestrials i mean other than that

1634
00:57:43,430 --> 00:57:42,160
uh but it's also a scientific center and

1635
00:57:44,630 --> 00:57:43,440
the fact that uh

1636
00:57:46,309 --> 00:57:44,640
uh

1637
00:57:47,670 --> 00:57:46,319
the seo is down there is not not

1638
00:57:49,349 --> 00:57:47,680
surprising probably that some of the

1639
00:57:51,510 --> 00:57:49,359
scientists that helped foreman initially

1640
00:57:53,670 --> 00:57:51,520
were there but again

1641
00:57:55,270 --> 00:57:53,680
if you you know according to see what

1642
00:57:56,150 --> 00:57:55,280
happened there that was important

1643
00:57:58,630 --> 00:57:56,160
somebody

1644
00:58:01,030 --> 00:57:58,640
uh ron braun went there to begin with

1645
00:58:02,309 --> 00:58:01,040
he's oh yeah yeah project mercury a long

1646
00:58:04,069 --> 00:58:02,319
time ago with

1647
00:58:05,190 --> 00:58:04,079
project paperclip scientists and all

1648
00:58:07,270 --> 00:58:05,200
that

1649
00:58:09,190 --> 00:58:07,280
uh what i don't know the details of what

1650
00:58:09,990 --> 00:58:09,200
happened in the seo i do know this that

1651
00:58:12,150 --> 00:58:10,000
uh

1652
00:58:13,829 --> 00:58:12,160
these groups are coming together now

1653
00:58:15,190 --> 00:58:13,839
look macdonald was bringing people like

1654
00:58:17,190 --> 00:58:15,200
that together all the way back in the

1655
00:58:18,710 --> 00:58:17,200
50s right but unfortunately he was ahead

1656
00:58:21,270 --> 00:58:18,720
of his time and i think i told you about

1657
00:58:23,109 --> 00:58:21,280
that earlier right

1658
00:58:24,789 --> 00:58:23,119
but they're talking about they're

1659
00:58:26,789 --> 00:58:24,799
talking about you know

1660
00:58:30,309 --> 00:58:26,799
advanced concepts propulsions they're

1661
00:58:31,270 --> 00:58:30,319
talking about uh consciousness issue

1662
00:58:32,390 --> 00:58:31,280
things that are considered the

1663
00:58:34,309 --> 00:58:32,400
paranormal i don't believe in the

1664
00:58:35,829 --> 00:58:34,319
paranormal uh and they're talking about

1665
00:58:37,109 --> 00:58:35,839
this issue and that's just another

1666
00:58:39,030 --> 00:58:37,119
indication

1667
00:58:41,510 --> 00:58:39,040
that we're near the end of the finish

1668
00:58:42,630 --> 00:58:41,520
line uh this is now turning up

1669
00:58:44,470 --> 00:58:42,640
everywhere

1670
00:58:46,309 --> 00:58:44,480
but it's turning up

1671
00:58:48,150 --> 00:58:46,319
nowhere more

1672
00:58:50,950 --> 00:58:48,160
prolifically

1673
00:58:53,109 --> 00:58:50,960
yeah and is benefiting uh

1674
00:58:54,789 --> 00:58:53,119
is as much or more than any other issue

1675
00:58:57,510 --> 00:58:54,799
that i know of

1676
00:58:59,030 --> 00:58:57,520
in the now well underway

1677
00:59:01,349 --> 00:58:59,040
golden era

1678
00:59:03,190 --> 00:59:01,359
of the podcast all right

1679
00:59:05,430 --> 00:59:03,200
what do you think of the wilson davis

1680
00:59:08,710 --> 00:59:05,440
notes are they true

1681
00:59:10,150 --> 00:59:08,720
i i wilson had an absolute clear reason

1682
00:59:12,470 --> 00:59:10,160
to deny it all

1683
00:59:14,150 --> 00:59:12,480
and davis won't say anything

1684
00:59:16,829 --> 00:59:14,160
and i know enough beyond that to know

1685
00:59:18,470 --> 00:59:16,839
that it's exactly what it is

1686
00:59:20,230 --> 00:59:18,480
right

1687
00:59:22,870 --> 00:59:20,240
and he didn't take those notes while he

1688
00:59:24,470 --> 00:59:22,880
was in the car he took the notes

1689
00:59:26,950 --> 00:59:24,480
after it was over and wrote him down

1690
00:59:28,470 --> 00:59:26,960
later uh but he has pretty good memory

1691
00:59:29,670 --> 00:59:28,480
so there might be a little thing here

1692
00:59:31,750 --> 00:59:29,680
the point is that wilson cannot admit to

1693
00:59:33,750 --> 00:59:31,760
that meeting because of his background

1694
00:59:36,069 --> 00:59:33,760
career look him up the guy is like a

1695
00:59:37,510 --> 00:59:36,079
national security you know ultra

1696
00:59:38,470 --> 00:59:37,520
professional there's almost no job he

1697
00:59:39,589 --> 00:59:38,480
didn't have

1698
00:59:42,950 --> 00:59:39,599
but but

1699
00:59:45,589 --> 00:59:44,309
what was i going to say

1700
00:59:47,829 --> 00:59:45,599
um

1701
00:59:49,430 --> 00:59:47,839
you're squirming a little bit on it

1702
00:59:50,950 --> 00:59:49,440
i think i think you know something you

1703
00:59:52,630 --> 00:59:50,960
don't want to tell me no no no i lost my

1704
00:59:53,910 --> 00:59:52,640
transformer and i was like yeah just

1705
00:59:55,510 --> 00:59:53,920
before you asked that question what was

1706
00:59:57,349 --> 00:59:55,520
i talking about jay

1707
00:59:59,349 --> 00:59:57,359
oh we were talking we were talking about

1708
01:00:01,990 --> 00:59:59,359
scu and we're just talking about you

1709
01:00:03,030 --> 01:00:02,000
know centering kind of around the idea

1710
01:00:03,910 --> 01:00:03,040
of like

1711
01:00:06,150 --> 01:00:03,920
um

1712
01:00:09,030 --> 01:00:06,160
where's you know where are the brain

1713
01:00:10,309 --> 01:00:09,040
centers for for where this is happening

1714
01:00:11,910 --> 01:00:10,319
these days because when we talk about

1715
01:00:14,309 --> 01:00:11,920
disclosure we're talking a lot about

1716
01:00:16,150 --> 01:00:14,319
like okay if we're talking about reverse

1717
01:00:17,670 --> 01:00:16,160
engineered technology if we're talking

1718
01:00:19,270 --> 01:00:17,680
about free energy if we're talking about

1719
01:00:21,430 --> 01:00:19,280
recovered craft if we're talking about

1720
01:00:23,589 --> 01:00:21,440
all this stuff um you know where are

1721
01:00:25,430 --> 01:00:23,599
these people hanging out like where's

1722
01:00:27,750 --> 01:00:25,440
this conversation happening and where

1723
01:00:29,910 --> 01:00:27,760
like where would we if this was a soccer

1724
01:00:31,510 --> 01:00:29,920
ball where is it

1725
01:00:33,030 --> 01:00:31,520
well there's a bar in downtown

1726
01:00:35,030 --> 01:00:33,040
washington okay

1727
01:00:37,910 --> 01:00:35,040
it's right across the street from the

1728
01:00:40,150 --> 01:00:37,920
national breast club it's huge right i

1729
01:00:41,670 --> 01:00:40,160
can't tell you the name but it's huge

1730
01:00:43,990 --> 01:00:41,680
one of the best it's one of the best in

1731
01:00:46,630 --> 01:00:44,000
all of town and they hang out in the

1732
01:00:48,069 --> 01:00:46,640
basement of that that bar when they're

1733
01:00:49,190 --> 01:00:48,079
not having their music programs because

1734
01:00:50,069 --> 01:00:49,200
they have these great music programs

1735
01:00:52,710 --> 01:00:50,079
here

1736
01:00:53,510 --> 01:00:52,720
uh uh or maybe not i'm not sure

1737
01:00:56,870 --> 01:00:53,520
look

1738
01:00:58,870 --> 01:00:56,880
i got into this issue in 1996

1739
01:01:00,470 --> 01:00:58,880
because it was clear to me that it was

1740
01:01:02,789 --> 01:01:00,480
no longer a science issue it was no

1741
01:01:04,870 --> 01:01:02,799
longer an evidence issue at all it

1742
01:01:07,030 --> 01:01:04,880
hadn't been for a long time

1743
01:01:09,510 --> 01:01:07,040
and and so then why wasn't it

1744
01:01:11,109 --> 01:01:09,520
in front of the congress why why why why

1745
01:01:12,549 --> 01:01:11,119
didn't everybody not know because it's a

1746
01:01:15,109 --> 01:01:12,559
political problem

1747
01:01:16,789 --> 01:01:15,119
beginning

1748
01:01:18,789 --> 01:01:16,799
they had the crash vehicle at roswell

1749
01:01:19,589 --> 01:01:18,799
and the bodies in their hands in 1947

1750
01:01:21,349 --> 01:01:19,599
okay

1751
01:01:22,789 --> 01:01:21,359
and so

1752
01:01:26,069 --> 01:01:22,799
what then

1753
01:01:28,789 --> 01:01:26,079
why are we trying to prove that

1754
01:01:30,870 --> 01:01:28,799
10 20 40 50 years later because they

1755
01:01:32,470 --> 01:01:30,880
made a political decision for national

1756
01:01:35,349 --> 01:01:32,480
security reasons that they can't

1757
01:01:36,950 --> 01:01:35,359
acknowledge it okay that is ultimately a

1758
01:01:38,789 --> 01:01:36,960
political decision not the least of

1759
01:01:40,789 --> 01:01:38,799
which is that the president

1760
01:01:42,470 --> 01:01:40,799
pretty much can end at any time that he

1761
01:01:45,030 --> 01:01:42,480
or she wants

1762
01:01:46,549 --> 01:01:45,040
and uh chose chosen not to

1763
01:01:48,549 --> 01:01:46,559
there's a case possibly that the

1764
01:01:51,349 --> 01:01:48,559
president didn't know anything and chose

1765
01:01:52,950 --> 01:01:51,359
not to but so it is a political problem

1766
01:01:54,309 --> 01:01:52,960
and so

1767
01:01:55,990 --> 01:01:54,319
it doesn't really matter where the

1768
01:01:57,430 --> 01:01:56,000
science is or where the scientists are

1769
01:01:59,430 --> 01:01:57,440
hanging out or where the underground

1770
01:02:01,190 --> 01:01:59,440
facilities are and how many crash

1771
01:02:02,950 --> 01:02:01,200
vehicles they have

1772
01:02:04,950 --> 01:02:02,960
right now that's not what's going to

1773
01:02:07,510 --> 01:02:04,960
resolve this issue

1774
01:02:09,270 --> 01:02:07,520
disclosure

1775
01:02:10,950 --> 01:02:09,280
the confirmation by the head of state

1776
01:02:13,829 --> 01:02:10,960
which then opens

1777
01:02:16,150 --> 01:02:13,839
everything up for at least consideration

1778
01:02:17,829 --> 01:02:16,160
for discussion without any without any

1779
01:02:19,190 --> 01:02:17,839
nonsense without any i don't know what

1780
01:02:21,430 --> 01:02:19,200
you're talking about

1781
01:02:25,349 --> 01:02:21,440
and i assure you that

1782
01:02:27,910 --> 01:02:25,359
in in the post-disclosure world we will

1783
01:02:32,390 --> 01:02:29,910
what the first

1784
01:02:33,670 --> 01:02:32,400
well the first year

1785
01:02:35,190 --> 01:02:33,680
i hope i live long enough to write a

1786
01:02:36,470 --> 01:02:35,200
book about it but i don't know i can't

1787
01:02:38,789 --> 01:02:36,480
even write it now and i'm not getting

1788
01:02:40,309 --> 01:02:38,799
any better uh

1789
01:02:41,589 --> 01:02:40,319
the first year after disclosure is going

1790
01:02:42,950 --> 01:02:41,599
to be your most amazing years and all

1791
01:02:44,230 --> 01:02:42,960
it'll be the most amazing year in august

1792
01:02:45,430 --> 01:02:44,240
i mean it just will be

1793
01:02:47,349 --> 01:02:45,440
everything that's going to happen

1794
01:02:48,710 --> 01:02:47,359
everything we're going to learn

1795
01:02:50,870 --> 01:02:48,720
all the books movies document i mean

1796
01:02:52,230 --> 01:02:50,880
it's just going to be a torrent it's

1797
01:02:55,589 --> 01:02:52,240
going to be like

1798
01:02:57,430 --> 01:02:55,599
the renaissance and the uh

1799
01:02:59,589 --> 01:02:57,440
every major paradigm shift in human

1800
01:03:00,390 --> 01:02:59,599
history kind of compressed into one year

1801
01:03:02,470 --> 01:03:00,400
right

1802
01:03:04,470 --> 01:03:02,480
uh only doable because of the error of

1803
01:03:06,950 --> 01:03:04,480
the podcast of course as well as the

1804
01:03:08,950 --> 01:03:06,960
fact that i've got a i've got a little

1805
01:03:10,870 --> 01:03:08,960
drive up here a little flash drive it's

1806
01:03:13,270 --> 01:03:10,880
about this big that has two terabytes in

1807
01:03:15,190 --> 01:03:13,280
it and all that other stuff so the whole

1808
01:03:17,950 --> 01:03:15,200
world can learn together it's going to

1809
01:03:20,710 --> 01:03:17,960
become a giant global university of i'd

1810
01:03:22,870 --> 01:03:20,720
autodidactism on a global scale in which

1811
01:03:25,750 --> 01:03:22,880
the amount of information being shoved

1812
01:03:28,150 --> 01:03:25,760
out and into the brains of more people

1813
01:03:29,670 --> 01:03:28,160
and nothing like it has ever happened

1814
01:03:31,430 --> 01:03:29,680
and we will learn

1815
01:03:33,589 --> 01:03:31,440
a lot of those things like

1816
01:03:35,510 --> 01:03:33,599
where was the science what scientists

1817
01:03:37,190 --> 01:03:35,520
were involved where was this secret

1818
01:03:38,789 --> 01:03:37,200
program and so forth and there'll be

1819
01:03:41,190 --> 01:03:38,799
some things we won't learn there will be

1820
01:03:45,589 --> 01:03:41,200
some things they're going to hold on

1821
01:03:48,230 --> 01:03:45,599
tight as long as they can there will be

1822
01:03:50,150 --> 01:03:48,240
there will be those i will be one

1823
01:03:51,270 --> 01:03:50,160
that will make the case

1824
01:03:53,670 --> 01:03:51,280
that

1825
01:03:54,950 --> 01:03:53,680
they need to really consider in this new

1826
01:03:57,430 --> 01:03:54,960
era

1827
01:04:00,470 --> 01:03:57,440
the upside the downside the cost benefit

1828
01:04:03,029 --> 01:04:00,480
analysis of every single thing they want

1829
01:04:05,029 --> 01:04:03,039
to keep hidden right you know in other

1830
01:04:07,109 --> 01:04:05,039
words really can't tell them about this

1831
01:04:08,470 --> 01:04:07,119
usap you know and then they need to look

1832
01:04:09,990 --> 01:04:08,480
at it and go wait a minute if we do tell

1833
01:04:11,430 --> 01:04:10,000
them about this use app what good would

1834
01:04:13,190 --> 01:04:11,440
come from that if we don't tell them

1835
01:04:16,069 --> 01:04:13,200
what bad will come they need to assess

1836
01:04:18,150 --> 01:04:16,079
i'm going to keep pushing that at them

1837
01:04:20,870 --> 01:04:18,160
their default position in the in the age

1838
01:04:23,750 --> 01:04:20,880
of excessive secrecy and abusive secrecy

1839
01:04:24,630 --> 01:04:23,760
is you just you classify it you know

1840
01:04:27,029 --> 01:04:24,640
whatever

1841
01:04:28,950 --> 01:04:27,039
right the colonel so and so just got

1842
01:04:30,950 --> 01:04:28,960
moved to another parking spot

1843
01:04:31,990 --> 01:04:30,960
right in order to be near the electric

1844
01:04:33,190 --> 01:04:32,000
charger

1845
01:04:34,710 --> 01:04:33,200
what should we do about that well you

1846
01:04:35,829 --> 01:04:34,720
classify it first we can't have our

1847
01:04:37,670 --> 01:04:35,839
enemies going where the hell he's

1848
01:04:39,990 --> 01:04:37,680
charging his electric car and then that

1849
01:04:42,309 --> 01:04:40,000
goes into the bucket well that bucket is

1850
01:04:44,309 --> 01:04:42,319
the size of an asteroid now i mean it's

1851
01:04:47,349 --> 01:04:44,319
it's filled it's costing hundreds of

1852
01:04:50,870 --> 01:04:47,359
millions of dollars to maintain that

1853
01:04:53,349 --> 01:04:50,880
uh bucking [\h__\h] it and so consequently

1854
01:04:55,990 --> 01:04:53,359
uh that needs to be fixed and i'm going

1855
01:04:57,910 --> 01:04:56,000
to be lobbing heavily for look

1856
01:04:59,990 --> 01:04:57,920
every every

1857
01:05:02,230 --> 01:05:00,000
nice juicy tidbit

1858
01:05:04,470 --> 01:05:02,240
of cool information that you bring

1859
01:05:07,589 --> 01:05:04,480
forward post-disclosure

1860
01:05:09,029 --> 01:05:07,599
your your your people your citizens are

1861
01:05:10,230 --> 01:05:09,039
going to go

1862
01:05:12,230 --> 01:05:10,240
right on

1863
01:05:14,309 --> 01:05:12,240
like that thank you so much

1864
01:05:16,309 --> 01:05:14,319
and then you give them something else

1865
01:05:17,589 --> 01:05:16,319
it's like being in front of millions of

1866
01:05:20,630 --> 01:05:17,599
children

1867
01:05:22,230 --> 01:05:20,640
with an infinite supply of ice cream

1868
01:05:24,230 --> 01:05:22,240
and all you have to do to make them

1869
01:05:26,309 --> 01:05:24,240
happy is keep giving them cones all

1870
01:05:28,150 --> 01:05:26,319
right boom bang boom get go on my oh

1871
01:05:29,349 --> 01:05:28,160
cone thank you so much uh that's what

1872
01:05:30,630 --> 01:05:29,359
they got they have almost infinite

1873
01:05:32,069 --> 01:05:30,640
amount of information and the public

1874
01:05:33,589 --> 01:05:32,079
desperately wants to know it and so as

1875
01:05:34,789 --> 01:05:33,599
long as they keep giving them more and

1876
01:05:36,789 --> 01:05:34,799
more and more the public is going to be

1877
01:05:38,630 --> 01:05:36,799
very grateful now the pressure will

1878
01:05:41,190 --> 01:05:38,640
build a little bit

1879
01:05:43,670 --> 01:05:41,200
if they're reasonable and and fair they

1880
01:05:44,390 --> 01:05:43,680
won't get too much heat

1881
01:05:46,309 --> 01:05:44,400
but

1882
01:05:47,829 --> 01:05:46,319
at some point there's going to be a lot

1883
01:05:48,829 --> 01:05:47,839
of things that's going to come down to

1884
01:05:51,589 --> 01:05:48,839
okay

1885
01:05:52,630 --> 01:05:51,599
buddy we kind of know about that and we

1886
01:05:53,990 --> 01:05:52,640
want it

1887
01:05:55,109 --> 01:05:54,000
and they're going to have to decide do

1888
01:05:57,990 --> 01:05:55,119
we tell them

1889
01:05:59,670 --> 01:05:58,000
you know it's a national security thing

1890
01:06:01,430 --> 01:05:59,680
and people they're going to realize

1891
01:06:03,109 --> 01:06:01,440
they're going to hate hearing that uh

1892
01:06:05,829 --> 01:06:03,119
and they're going to decide what is the

1893
01:06:07,190 --> 01:06:05,839
harm if we let them the public know

1894
01:06:08,789 --> 01:06:07,200
about this

1895
01:06:10,630 --> 01:06:08,799
and they're going to finally get to the

1896
01:06:12,789 --> 01:06:10,640
point

1897
01:06:14,390 --> 01:06:12,799
well hopefully in the united states but

1898
01:06:16,230 --> 01:06:14,400
it has to happen in countries all over

1899
01:06:19,829 --> 01:06:16,240
the world though i'm sure china and

1900
01:06:22,150 --> 01:06:19,839
russia will be slow to get on board

1901
01:06:24,630 --> 01:06:22,160
the default position

1902
01:06:26,789 --> 01:06:24,640
for everything that the government does

1903
01:06:29,349 --> 01:06:26,799
and learns and knows

1904
01:06:30,870 --> 01:06:29,359
should be its public

1905
01:06:32,309 --> 01:06:30,880
default position

1906
01:06:33,990 --> 01:06:32,319
yeah the new colonel's parking lot

1907
01:06:35,670 --> 01:06:34,000
public absolutely parking spot

1908
01:06:37,910 --> 01:06:35,680
absolutely it's probably probably not

1909
01:06:39,589 --> 01:06:37,920
and only

1910
01:06:41,029 --> 01:06:39,599
under considerable

1911
01:06:43,190 --> 01:06:41,039
thought and scrutiny

1912
01:06:44,309 --> 01:06:43,200
do you choose to take a very expensive

1913
01:06:47,190 --> 01:06:44,319
decision

1914
01:06:50,230 --> 01:06:47,200
to classify it okay

1915
01:06:51,510 --> 01:06:50,240
uh and we're not there yet

1916
01:06:53,670 --> 01:06:51,520
we might get there in the

1917
01:06:55,029 --> 01:06:53,680
post-disclosure world other nations may

1918
01:06:57,270 --> 01:06:55,039
follow

1919
01:07:00,150 --> 01:06:57,280
but i'll say this

1920
01:07:03,109 --> 01:07:00,160
a world where 200 nations

1921
01:07:05,190 --> 01:07:03,119
are operating on top of a giant pile of

1922
01:07:07,190 --> 01:07:05,200
classified stuff

1923
01:07:09,910 --> 01:07:07,200
dealing with ever-growing population

1924
01:07:11,430 --> 01:07:09,920
which is now at 7.9 billion who don't

1925
01:07:12,789 --> 01:07:11,440
know what the hell is going on what

1926
01:07:13,910 --> 01:07:12,799
could happen to them why they're doing

1927
01:07:15,270 --> 01:07:13,920
this and why they're doing that and

1928
01:07:16,309 --> 01:07:15,280
pretty sure they're lying about most

1929
01:07:18,950 --> 01:07:16,319
everything

1930
01:07:20,950 --> 01:07:18,960
is not going to end well

1931
01:07:24,150 --> 01:07:20,960
and it's going to end soon

1932
01:07:25,190 --> 01:07:24,160
it's going to go really really badly

1933
01:07:28,870 --> 01:07:25,200
and so

1934
01:07:31,430 --> 01:07:28,880
again i i i'm not if i was a super duper

1935
01:07:33,670 --> 01:07:31,440
academic i'd write some really cool 400

1936
01:07:37,029 --> 01:07:33,680
page book on this with all kinds of

1937
01:07:39,750 --> 01:07:37,039
you know uh footnotes and and impeccable

1938
01:07:41,990 --> 01:07:39,760
references to make this point i'm not

1939
01:07:44,230 --> 01:07:42,000
and so i just i just make it on podcast

1940
01:07:45,750 --> 01:07:44,240
which probably will work out because

1941
01:07:47,190 --> 01:07:45,760
in a in a short amount of time there

1942
01:07:48,549 --> 01:07:47,200
will be no books

1943
01:07:49,670 --> 01:07:48,559
people will learn everything from

1944
01:07:51,029 --> 01:07:49,680
podcasts right that's what i'm going to

1945
01:07:53,349 --> 01:07:51,039
do and it's going to be video and of

1946
01:07:55,990 --> 01:07:53,359
course streaming series and i'm going to

1947
01:07:57,750 --> 01:07:56,000
leave those out but streaming series you

1948
01:07:59,910 --> 01:07:57,760
know they're kind of you know they have

1949
01:08:02,470 --> 01:07:59,920
to be entertainment give me more focus

1950
01:08:05,029 --> 01:08:02,480
there and then they cost a fortune

1951
01:08:05,910 --> 01:08:05,039
right whereas uh podcasts they cost

1952
01:08:07,750 --> 01:08:05,920
nothing

1953
01:08:10,150 --> 01:08:07,760
almost and and pretty soon you'll have

1954
01:08:10,870 --> 01:08:10,160
cameras we'll have imax cameras you can

1955
01:08:14,069 --> 01:08:10,880
put

1956
01:08:16,950 --> 01:08:14,079
cost eighty thousand bucks you're going

1957
01:08:18,789 --> 01:08:16,960
to be gabby amazon for like 49.50 and

1958
01:08:20,470 --> 01:08:18,799
you're going to look like you know star

1959
01:08:22,149 --> 01:08:20,480
wars right you're going to be able to do

1960
01:08:24,149 --> 01:08:22,159
cgi that's all coming

1961
01:08:25,749 --> 01:08:24,159
so so that's how they're going to get

1962
01:08:28,070 --> 01:08:25,759
this information books are gone so the

1963
01:08:29,910 --> 01:08:28,080
fact that i can't write a book may not

1964
01:08:33,749 --> 01:08:29,920
ultimately not prove to be much of a

1965
01:08:34,709 --> 01:08:33,759
liability let and have to ask you this

1966
01:08:36,789 --> 01:08:34,719
before

1967
01:08:38,870 --> 01:08:36,799
you know we even think about getting out

1968
01:08:40,390 --> 01:08:38,880
of here and it is why are we getting out

1969
01:08:42,470 --> 01:08:40,400
of here it's a podcast you can go as

1970
01:08:44,390 --> 01:08:42,480
long as you want can't you yeah i can we

1971
01:08:47,189 --> 01:08:44,400
usually go an hour but i can keep going

1972
01:08:49,590 --> 01:08:47,199
um whatever

1973
01:08:50,630 --> 01:08:49,600
you mentioned earlier

1974
01:08:53,269 --> 01:08:50,640
um

1975
01:08:55,189 --> 01:08:53,279
the why why this is all happening now

1976
01:08:58,070 --> 01:08:55,199
and you were you were saying you were

1977
01:09:01,430 --> 01:08:58,080
gonna possibly get into that so

1978
01:09:02,709 --> 01:09:01,440
i'm gonna ask you yeah okay and now i

1979
01:09:04,229 --> 01:09:02,719
gotta go back

1980
01:09:07,110 --> 01:09:04,239
um

1981
01:09:08,390 --> 01:09:07,120
what were we talking about when i said

1982
01:09:10,870 --> 01:09:08,400
uh you probably want to know why i'll

1983
01:09:13,110 --> 01:09:10,880
tell you later do you recall yeah

1984
01:09:15,990 --> 01:09:13,120
that's that

1985
01:09:17,749 --> 01:09:16,000
man i i hit rewind but podcasts aren't

1986
01:09:18,829 --> 01:09:17,759
that far

1987
01:09:31,749 --> 01:09:18,839
i

1988
01:09:33,910 --> 01:09:31,759
okay uh

1989
01:09:35,829 --> 01:09:33,920
oh okay no i got it now i got it okay i

1990
01:09:37,829 --> 01:09:35,839
got it

1991
01:09:40,630 --> 01:09:37,839
the reason

1992
01:09:41,510 --> 01:09:40,640
that we're having hearings now

1993
01:09:42,870 --> 01:09:41,520
is

1994
01:09:44,950 --> 01:09:42,880
and of course people want a simple

1995
01:09:46,829 --> 01:09:44,960
answer to that they'd like a clean deal

1996
01:09:49,910 --> 01:09:46,839
right right

1997
01:09:51,510 --> 01:09:49,920
uh yeah people are human right

1998
01:09:52,950 --> 01:09:51,520
if they got a problem they they want a

1999
01:09:54,870 --> 01:09:52,960
fortune cookie they want they want to

2000
01:09:56,630 --> 01:09:54,880
strip a paper about this big you know

2001
01:09:59,669 --> 01:09:56,640
and they want it to say exactly what the

2002
01:10:01,910 --> 01:09:59,679
issue is right and they go i got that

2003
01:10:03,590 --> 01:10:01,920
um

2004
01:10:05,910 --> 01:10:03,600
it's it's because of what took place in

2005
01:10:07,590 --> 01:10:05,920
2017.

2006
01:10:10,630 --> 01:10:07,600
it was formulated and planned out in

2007
01:10:12,870 --> 01:10:10,640
2015 2016.

2008
01:10:13,830 --> 01:10:12,880
it was a decision on the part of a lot

2009
01:10:16,470 --> 01:10:13,840
of people

2010
01:10:18,550 --> 01:10:16,480
who either were working

2011
01:10:21,910 --> 01:10:18,560
for government any in in in several

2012
01:10:23,750 --> 01:10:21,920
agencies or maybe uh had been working

2013
01:10:25,270 --> 01:10:23,760
had all careers

2014
01:10:27,830 --> 01:10:25,280
that they made a decision that it was in

2015
01:10:30,229 --> 01:10:27,840
the best interest of their employee

2016
01:10:31,669 --> 01:10:30,239
uh which is basically the us government

2017
01:10:33,430 --> 01:10:31,679
but essentially the military

2018
01:10:35,990 --> 01:10:33,440
intelligence complex

2019
01:10:38,950 --> 01:10:36,000
that they have served with honor

2020
01:10:40,630 --> 01:10:38,960
that they they do something

2021
01:10:42,070 --> 01:10:40,640
in advance of what they were pretty sure

2022
01:10:43,430 --> 01:10:42,080
was going to happen and hillary clinton

2023
01:10:44,709 --> 01:10:43,440
was going to be the disclosure president

2024
01:10:45,669 --> 01:10:44,719
she was going to win the white house she

2025
01:10:47,510 --> 01:10:45,679
was going to go in and she was going to

2026
01:10:49,590 --> 01:10:47,520
disclose it because her husband

2027
01:10:51,910 --> 01:10:49,600
what could have and he was basically

2028
01:10:54,070 --> 01:10:51,920
told by the pentagon

2029
01:10:55,669 --> 01:10:54,080
why don't you go back to arkansas yes

2030
01:10:56,630 --> 01:10:55,679
stupid bubba

2031
01:10:58,470 --> 01:10:56,640
right

2032
01:11:00,070 --> 01:10:58,480
or hey yeah i'm sorry you've had too

2033
01:11:03,430 --> 01:11:00,080
many you've had too many affairs screw

2034
01:11:05,189 --> 01:11:03,440
you whatever it doesn't matter uh there

2035
01:11:06,870 --> 01:11:05,199
she particularly was mad as hell about

2036
01:11:08,709 --> 01:11:06,880
that and so

2037
01:11:10,709 --> 01:11:08,719
a lot had happened between uh the time

2038
01:11:13,990 --> 01:11:10,719
they left office in 2000 and of course

2039
01:11:16,790 --> 01:11:14,000
the election of 2016.

2040
01:11:18,550 --> 01:11:16,800
and they saw the articles they saw

2041
01:11:20,390 --> 01:11:18,560
the things they were pretty much forced

2042
01:11:22,149 --> 01:11:20,400
to say going on various shows and

2043
01:11:25,189 --> 01:11:22,159
talking about it in order to keep the

2044
01:11:27,430 --> 01:11:25,199
the press at bay right and they're

2045
01:11:28,630 --> 01:11:27,440
realizing it's coming

2046
01:11:29,750 --> 01:11:28,640
disclosure's coming and it's going to

2047
01:11:31,510 --> 01:11:29,760
come under clinton and it's going to be

2048
01:11:34,149 --> 01:11:31,520
early in that administration

2049
01:11:36,550 --> 01:11:34,159
and they had a real big problem

2050
01:11:37,590 --> 01:11:36,560
a legitimate problem

2051
01:11:41,030 --> 01:11:37,600
because they knew

2052
01:11:43,430 --> 01:11:41,040
exactly what was going to happen

2053
01:11:44,870 --> 01:11:43,440
if secretary clinton or any any

2054
01:11:47,750 --> 01:11:44,880
president

2055
01:11:49,430 --> 01:11:47,760
or to disclose the finally under

2056
01:11:50,950 --> 01:11:49,440
whatever conditions could be just like

2057
01:11:52,870 --> 01:11:50,960
the hearings

2058
01:11:57,510 --> 01:11:52,880
all good all cool

2059
01:11:59,750 --> 01:11:57,520
uh the e.t presence to the world

2060
01:12:02,390 --> 01:11:59,760
the first question they're going to ask

2061
01:12:04,149 --> 01:12:02,400
is why didn't we learn this sooner

2062
01:12:06,470 --> 01:12:04,159
and they're going to

2063
01:12:07,750 --> 01:12:06,480
reach out and point over toward wherever

2064
01:12:09,510 --> 01:12:07,760
the pentagon is they're going to be

2065
01:12:11,430 --> 01:12:09,520
pointing right at the pentagon and

2066
01:12:13,350 --> 01:12:11,440
saying take all your questions

2067
01:12:15,189 --> 01:12:13,360
all of your your wrath take your

2068
01:12:17,030 --> 01:12:15,199
pitchforks take your torches take them

2069
01:12:19,830 --> 01:12:17,040
all there and go to the pentagon because

2070
01:12:23,750 --> 01:12:19,840
they are the ones that have kept this

2071
01:12:27,030 --> 01:12:23,760
from you not us right they blocked us

2072
01:12:29,270 --> 01:12:27,040
stonewalled us hid hid stuff whatever

2073
01:12:31,669 --> 01:12:29,280
uh and oh by the way while you're over

2074
01:12:33,669 --> 01:12:31,679
there go piss on the air force

2075
01:12:36,550 --> 01:12:33,679
and the navy too and the cia don't

2076
01:12:38,709 --> 01:12:36,560
forget the cia in other words military

2077
01:12:40,790 --> 01:12:38,719
intelligence complex out of control

2078
01:12:43,750 --> 01:12:40,800
abusive secrecy and all that

2079
01:12:45,990 --> 01:12:43,760
we the politicians so wanted you to know

2080
01:12:48,070 --> 01:12:46,000
the truth but we were denied access we

2081
01:12:49,189 --> 01:12:48,080
didn't know they lied to us in other

2082
01:12:50,790 --> 01:12:49,199
words they were going to throw the whole

2083
01:12:51,669 --> 01:12:50,800
military intelligence complex under the

2084
01:12:53,110 --> 01:12:51,679
bus

2085
01:12:53,830 --> 01:12:53,120
under the tank

2086
01:12:57,030 --> 01:12:53,840
yeah

2087
01:12:59,030 --> 01:12:57,040
and they that is not something i assure

2088
01:13:01,110 --> 01:12:59,040
and this is look

2089
01:13:03,110 --> 01:13:01,120
you know politicians

2090
01:13:05,110 --> 01:13:03,120
throw people and institutions under the

2091
01:13:06,950 --> 01:13:05,120
bus from time to time nothing unusual

2092
01:13:09,110 --> 01:13:06,960
about that usually it's about something

2093
01:13:10,790 --> 01:13:09,120
that's not too profound and it's

2094
01:13:11,750 --> 01:13:10,800
irritating but they kiss and make up

2095
01:13:13,510 --> 01:13:11,760
later

2096
01:13:14,950 --> 01:13:13,520
this is the most important issue in

2097
01:13:18,950 --> 01:13:14,960
human history

2098
01:13:21,750 --> 01:13:18,960
this is this is mega all right and so

2099
01:13:23,750 --> 01:13:21,760
this is not the idea that

2100
01:13:25,669 --> 01:13:23,760
the military intelligence complex what

2101
01:13:27,590 --> 01:13:25,679
any aspect of in all of it was going to

2102
01:13:29,990 --> 01:13:27,600
be the scapegoat

2103
01:13:31,270 --> 01:13:30,000
for the 75-year embargo that was started

2104
01:13:33,030 --> 01:13:31,280
not by

2105
01:13:34,390 --> 01:13:33,040
the the head of the department of

2106
01:13:37,590 --> 01:13:34,400
defense or department of war whatever

2107
01:13:39,990 --> 01:13:37,600
was called in 47 but by president truman

2108
01:13:42,070 --> 01:13:40,000
and maintained by president eisenhower

2109
01:13:43,830 --> 01:13:42,080
and other presidents either

2110
01:13:45,110 --> 01:13:43,840
intentionally or because they didn't

2111
01:13:47,669 --> 01:13:45,120
they sort of knew but they weren't going

2112
01:13:48,790 --> 01:13:47,679
to press the issue and find out

2113
01:13:51,030 --> 01:13:48,800
and so

2114
01:13:54,070 --> 01:13:51,040
they made the decision

2115
01:13:55,910 --> 01:13:54,080
that we have to we have to go proactive

2116
01:13:57,990 --> 01:13:55,920
we have to do something that

2117
01:14:00,229 --> 01:13:58,000
demonstrates that

2118
01:14:02,149 --> 01:14:00,239
the military intelligence people who are

2119
01:14:03,189 --> 01:14:02,159
good honest you know people defending

2120
01:14:05,350 --> 01:14:03,199
the country

2121
01:14:07,510 --> 01:14:05,360
also believe you need to know the truth

2122
01:14:09,910 --> 01:14:07,520
and what can we do

2123
01:14:11,830 --> 01:14:09,920
well there aren't too many options

2124
01:14:15,430 --> 01:14:11,840
that didn't involve jail

2125
01:14:17,669 --> 01:14:15,440
or uh no pension right moving into a

2126
01:14:19,110 --> 01:14:17,679
double wide uh

2127
01:14:22,390 --> 01:14:19,120
it was

2128
01:14:24,229 --> 01:14:22,400
let's create a a private organization

2129
01:14:26,149 --> 01:14:24,239
post employment

2130
01:14:28,950 --> 01:14:26,159
right

2131
01:14:30,790 --> 01:14:28,960
career people great resumes

2132
01:14:32,550 --> 01:14:30,800
been there done that but now private

2133
01:14:34,630 --> 01:14:32,560
citizens

2134
01:14:36,950 --> 01:14:34,640
and let's launch that

2135
01:14:38,870 --> 01:14:36,960
and from that platform advance the

2136
01:14:39,750 --> 01:14:38,880
disclosure process

2137
01:14:42,550 --> 01:14:39,760
all right

2138
01:14:45,430 --> 01:14:42,560
in other words get out in front of it

2139
01:14:47,110 --> 01:14:45,440
so that at least

2140
01:14:48,630 --> 01:14:47,120
it will be clear a lot of people will

2141
01:14:49,590 --> 01:14:48,640
recognize

2142
01:14:51,350 --> 01:14:49,600
that

2143
01:14:52,630 --> 01:14:51,360
some there were people in the military

2144
01:14:54,390 --> 01:14:52,640
intelligence complex because there were

2145
01:14:57,110 --> 01:14:54,400
there was plenty of people still inside

2146
01:14:59,189 --> 01:14:57,120
that supported what the ttsa did

2147
01:15:01,030 --> 01:14:59,199
that we cared we wanted to know the

2148
01:15:02,709 --> 01:15:01,040
truth and here we've done that that that

2149
01:15:05,110 --> 01:15:02,719
that would be a big deal it would be a

2150
01:15:06,870 --> 01:15:05,120
huge public relations win

2151
01:15:09,510 --> 01:15:06,880
okay but

2152
01:15:11,750 --> 01:15:09,520
and it was a bold daring thing to do let

2153
01:15:13,110 --> 01:15:11,760
me tell you i assure you it wasn't like

2154
01:15:14,070 --> 01:15:13,120
they all got together oh this will be

2155
01:15:15,910 --> 01:15:14,080
easy

2156
01:15:18,790 --> 01:15:15,920
let's do this i've always wanted to

2157
01:15:19,910 --> 01:15:18,800
retire this way you know uh no no no no

2158
01:15:22,149 --> 01:15:19,920
but you see

2159
01:15:29,110 --> 01:15:22,159
they

2160
01:15:30,310 --> 01:15:29,120
i had concluded

2161
01:15:31,510 --> 01:15:30,320
secretary

2162
01:15:32,950 --> 01:15:31,520
clinton

2163
01:15:33,910 --> 01:15:32,960
was a lock to be president of the united

2164
01:15:35,830 --> 01:15:33,920
states

2165
01:15:37,590 --> 01:15:35,840
and he couldn't lose

2166
01:15:39,910 --> 01:15:37,600
uh and uh and then of course all the

2167
01:15:42,470 --> 01:15:39,920
statements are coming out and so

2168
01:15:44,709 --> 01:15:42,480
i believe the plan and and nobody has

2169
01:15:46,630 --> 01:15:44,719
have ever contacted me

2170
01:15:49,510 --> 01:15:46,640
and said you got it wrong steve

2171
01:15:50,470 --> 01:15:49,520
and if they do i will admittedly uh you

2172
01:15:52,470 --> 01:15:50,480
know

2173
01:15:53,830 --> 01:15:52,480
establish that i i will come forward no

2174
01:15:55,189 --> 01:15:53,840
one has ever said that i'm pretty sure

2175
01:15:57,110 --> 01:15:55,199
i'm right

2176
01:15:58,550 --> 01:15:57,120
that the plan

2177
01:16:01,830 --> 01:15:58,560
and this thing was being put together in

2178
01:16:03,270 --> 01:16:01,840
2015 and 16. the plan

2179
01:16:05,430 --> 01:16:03,280
was and it was a good plan it was a

2180
01:16:06,709 --> 01:16:05,440
great plan i loved that plan

2181
01:16:07,830 --> 01:16:06,719
uh to

2182
01:16:09,350 --> 01:16:07,840
secretary

2183
01:16:10,709 --> 01:16:09,360
clinton when's the election

2184
01:16:12,709 --> 01:16:10,719
okay

2185
01:16:14,310 --> 01:16:12,719
and then of course because

2186
01:16:16,390 --> 01:16:14,320
400 articles have been written about her

2187
01:16:18,149 --> 01:16:16,400
connection to the et issue and bill's

2188
01:16:20,070 --> 01:16:18,159
connection to the issue and podesta's

2189
01:16:22,870 --> 01:16:20,080
connection issue it's like the president

2190
01:16:23,910 --> 01:16:22,880
the president swoops in and goes uh

2191
01:16:25,669 --> 01:16:23,920
i mean uh

2192
01:16:27,030 --> 01:16:25,679
president-elect clinton uh you know what

2193
01:16:29,430 --> 01:16:27,040
did you mean when you said this to jimmy

2194
01:16:31,030 --> 01:16:29,440
kimmel what what did john podesta

2195
01:16:33,189 --> 01:16:31,040
and the answer would be look look folks

2196
01:16:35,430 --> 01:16:33,199
folks guys girls look

2197
01:16:37,669 --> 01:16:35,440
i got to form a new government here this

2198
01:16:39,270 --> 01:16:37,679
is the transition period why don't you

2199
01:16:41,110 --> 01:16:39,280
wait and ask me these questions once i'm

2200
01:16:42,229 --> 01:16:41,120
in the white house and they go

2201
01:16:43,910 --> 01:16:42,239
okay and then they come back a week

2202
01:16:45,990 --> 01:16:43,920
later and so forth so this transition

2203
01:16:47,669 --> 01:16:46,000
period okay

2204
01:16:49,910 --> 01:16:47,679
that's when the to the stars academy was

2205
01:16:51,270 --> 01:16:49,920
supposed to launch

2206
01:16:53,990 --> 01:16:51,280
could have been as early as late

2207
01:16:56,709 --> 01:16:54,000
november early december right

2208
01:16:59,430 --> 01:16:56,719
eventually lost in october of 2017 but

2209
01:17:01,590 --> 01:16:59,440
it would have been probably november so

2210
01:17:03,189 --> 01:17:01,600
she wins and boom

2211
01:17:05,030 --> 01:17:03,199
they they launch

2212
01:17:06,950 --> 01:17:05,040
they put up a website they give a video

2213
01:17:08,790 --> 01:17:06,960
and a sudden you're seeing clinton is

2214
01:17:09,990 --> 01:17:08,800
the president and and all these press

2215
01:17:13,350 --> 01:17:10,000
are interested in what she thinks about

2216
01:17:15,830 --> 01:17:13,360
uaps and and all her coverage of that

2217
01:17:18,790 --> 01:17:15,840
and now these guys come out and it's

2218
01:17:21,270 --> 01:17:18,800
like wow uh holy mackerel what is this

2219
01:17:23,270 --> 01:17:21,280
and before the finger can be pointed to

2220
01:17:24,709 --> 01:17:23,280
the defense industry you have someone

2221
01:17:27,350 --> 01:17:24,719
from lockheed you have a

2222
01:17:31,669 --> 01:17:27,360
counterintelligence guy you have helped

2223
01:17:33,990 --> 01:17:33,110
and then and then here's where it gets

2224
01:17:36,310 --> 01:17:34,000
better

2225
01:17:38,070 --> 01:17:36,320
and then you know with the press's hair

2226
01:17:40,550 --> 01:17:38,080
on fire and everybody go man it looks

2227
01:17:43,750 --> 01:17:40,560
like wow this they say uh

2228
01:17:45,350 --> 01:17:43,760
we are we this is basically a public

2229
01:17:47,270 --> 01:17:45,360
benefit corporation

2230
01:17:48,630 --> 01:17:47,280
we we we have all these things in areas

2231
01:17:50,149 --> 01:17:48,640
of the issue we want to explore and

2232
01:17:51,110 --> 01:17:50,159
research everything else you want to be

2233
01:17:53,590 --> 01:17:51,120
out there

2234
01:17:55,110 --> 01:17:53,600
and uh five dollars a share right you

2235
01:17:57,669 --> 01:17:55,120
can be part of this

2236
01:17:59,270 --> 01:17:57,679
they had to raise 50 million bucks

2237
01:18:01,709 --> 01:17:59,280
and they would have been primed and set

2238
01:18:04,470 --> 01:18:01,719
up to be big time players in the

2239
01:18:05,750 --> 01:18:04,480
post-disclosure era okay so it's a

2240
01:18:07,270 --> 01:18:05,760
win-win-win

2241
01:18:08,790 --> 01:18:07,280
it's a win for the military tells it's

2242
01:18:10,470 --> 01:18:08,800
certainly a win for these guys and the

2243
01:18:12,790 --> 01:18:10,480
one woman gilpin

2244
01:18:14,070 --> 01:18:12,800
uh they're heroes they're heroes and

2245
01:18:15,430 --> 01:18:14,080
they've raised a ton of money and

2246
01:18:18,870 --> 01:18:15,440
they're now ready to operate in the

2247
01:18:20,950 --> 01:18:18,880
post-disclosure world it was a fantastic

2248
01:18:24,229 --> 01:18:20,960
plan and the risk would have been

2249
01:18:25,830 --> 01:18:24,239
minimal why because the time frame the

2250
01:18:27,110 --> 01:18:25,840
time the time they announce it and the

2251
01:18:28,790 --> 01:18:27,120
time she goes in the white house so you

2252
01:18:30,950 --> 01:18:28,800
know what six weeks

2253
01:18:33,590 --> 01:18:30,960
and then they're home free

2254
01:18:36,070 --> 01:18:33,600
that was the plan

2255
01:18:37,430 --> 01:18:36,080
but it didn't work out that way

2256
01:18:41,590 --> 01:18:37,440
and so they were faced with a

2257
01:18:43,350 --> 01:18:41,600
tremendously difficult decision to make

2258
01:18:45,750 --> 01:18:43,360
and the factors in that decision were

2259
01:18:51,270 --> 01:18:47,750
the plan was sort of outed

2260
01:18:52,149 --> 01:18:51,280
a little bit i in some people were outed

2261
01:18:54,390 --> 01:18:52,159
uh

2262
01:18:55,669 --> 01:18:54,400
tom delong outed

2263
01:18:57,750 --> 01:18:55,679
aspects of it when he gave this

2264
01:18:59,750 --> 01:18:57,760
interview in march of 2016 to george

2265
01:19:01,990 --> 01:18:59,760
knapp sunday's show easy to find just go

2266
01:19:03,430 --> 01:19:02,000
on the coast to coast site three hours

2267
01:19:05,030 --> 01:19:03,440
somebody went on and on and on he's

2268
01:19:06,550 --> 01:19:05,040
talking about this did that's meant this

2269
01:19:08,950 --> 01:19:06,560
person that that person without actually

2270
01:19:11,430 --> 01:19:08,960
getting into uh

2271
01:19:13,830 --> 01:19:11,440
any kind of agenda or reason but when

2272
01:19:15,189 --> 01:19:13,840
the emails came out too yeah media

2273
01:19:17,110 --> 01:19:15,199
entertainment thing and it's all

2274
01:19:18,790 --> 01:19:17,120
interesting and i'm going

2275
01:19:20,390 --> 01:19:18,800
i struggled with it because he was a

2276
01:19:22,630 --> 01:19:20,400
high school grad rock star who

2277
01:19:24,229 --> 01:19:22,640
occasionally takes off some clothes on

2278
01:19:26,149 --> 01:19:24,239
stage i'm just going there's no way that

2279
01:19:28,630 --> 01:19:26,159
he's meeting with these people i was

2280
01:19:30,790 --> 01:19:28,640
wrong okay like the next month i

2281
01:19:33,590 --> 01:19:30,800
realized i was wrong but that was in

2282
01:19:35,110 --> 01:19:33,600
that was in march of 2016. then

2283
01:19:37,350 --> 01:19:35,120
virtually nothing that he published a

2284
01:19:39,030 --> 01:19:37,360
book secret machines one book okay but

2285
01:19:40,709 --> 01:19:39,040
you know we're focused on the election

2286
01:19:43,750 --> 01:19:40,719
i'm focused on generating even more

2287
01:19:44,950 --> 01:19:43,760
publicity about clinton ct connection

2288
01:19:47,750 --> 01:19:44,960
and then

2289
01:19:49,830 --> 01:19:47,760
it was quite a year 2016. i i don't know

2290
01:19:51,110 --> 01:19:49,840
if you remember it well but a lot of

2291
01:19:53,030 --> 01:19:51,120
people will

2292
01:19:53,830 --> 01:19:53,040
they'll take it to the grave

2293
01:19:56,630 --> 01:19:53,840
uh

2294
01:19:58,229 --> 01:19:56,640
julian assange made the fatal mistake

2295
01:20:00,310 --> 01:19:58,239
of going beyond

2296
01:20:02,390 --> 01:20:00,320
really hardcore journalism

2297
01:20:04,229 --> 01:20:02,400
into political activism

2298
01:20:07,030 --> 01:20:04,239
a mistake that has resulted in him being

2299
01:20:08,950 --> 01:20:07,040
in jail to this day

2300
01:20:11,030 --> 01:20:08,960
he made the decision i'm going to dump

2301
01:20:12,709 --> 01:20:11,040
out a bunch of new files

2302
01:20:15,669 --> 01:20:12,719
all right a bunch of new whole files

2303
01:20:18,950 --> 01:20:15,679
here which i normally do

2304
01:20:20,629 --> 01:20:18,960
but it's just going to be the democratic

2305
01:20:22,790 --> 01:20:20,639
national committee and then it's going

2306
01:20:24,390 --> 01:20:22,800
to be john podesta's files

2307
01:20:26,070 --> 01:20:24,400
and we're going to do it just before the

2308
01:20:27,669 --> 01:20:26,080
election and we're not going to do it

2309
01:20:30,070 --> 01:20:27,679
all at once like we've often done

2310
01:20:32,790 --> 01:20:30,080
meaning boom here it is go through it

2311
01:20:35,510 --> 01:20:32,800
see what you find it's journalism okay

2312
01:20:37,669 --> 01:20:35,520
but let's do it 5 000 a day for like

2313
01:20:40,070 --> 01:20:37,679
over a period of about 13 days all right

2314
01:20:41,350 --> 01:20:40,080
to maximize the impact leading into the

2315
01:20:43,430 --> 01:20:41,360
election virtually right up to the

2316
01:20:45,189 --> 01:20:43,440
election in other words i'm not just a

2317
01:20:48,070 --> 01:20:45,199
journalist now i'm taking down hillary

2318
01:20:49,990 --> 01:20:48,080
clinton who i despise and he does

2319
01:20:52,790 --> 01:20:50,000
and so naturally

2320
01:20:54,790 --> 01:20:52,800
uh once you do that you create enemies

2321
01:20:57,189 --> 01:20:54,800
that are not going to be as sympathetic

2322
01:20:59,669 --> 01:20:57,199
to the purity of your journalism

2323
01:21:01,830 --> 01:20:59,679
and that's what led to his demise

2324
01:21:03,750 --> 01:21:01,840
but those files of which are on my

2325
01:21:04,790 --> 01:21:03,760
website right now if you go to the blog

2326
01:21:07,189 --> 01:21:04,800
section

2327
01:21:08,070 --> 01:21:07,199
you go down to the year 2016 you will

2328
01:21:10,149 --> 01:21:08,080
find

2329
01:21:11,430 --> 01:21:10,159
in a blog piece which is in a stream but

2330
01:21:12,709 --> 01:21:11,440
you can also click on it put in a

2331
01:21:14,709 --> 01:21:12,719
separate page

2332
01:21:17,030 --> 01:21:14,719
i've got a complete record of all 90

2333
01:21:19,750 --> 01:21:17,040
some emails that was in john podesta's

2334
01:21:23,590 --> 01:21:19,760
server that wikileaks dumped relating to

2335
01:21:26,070 --> 01:21:23,600
uap ufo stuff tom delong oh there's 90.

2336
01:21:27,270 --> 01:21:26,080
i've got the link to the wikipedia uh

2337
01:21:30,790 --> 01:21:27,280
actual

2338
01:21:33,430 --> 01:21:30,800
email as well as commentary and so

2339
01:21:35,110 --> 01:21:33,440
when that came out some people that tom

2340
01:21:36,950 --> 01:21:35,120
was dealing with were outed who weren't

2341
01:21:39,750 --> 01:21:36,960
supposed to be outed and it became

2342
01:21:40,790 --> 01:21:39,760
increasingly clear something was going

2343
01:21:42,709 --> 01:21:40,800
on

2344
01:21:45,030 --> 01:21:42,719
because there was no evidence at all

2345
01:21:47,110 --> 01:21:45,040
that tom delonge was talking to the

2346
01:21:48,790 --> 01:21:47,120
republican national committee's uh

2347
01:21:51,669 --> 01:21:48,800
chairman of the campaign

2348
01:21:54,229 --> 01:21:51,679
uh or anybody over there interesting why

2349
01:21:56,550 --> 01:21:54,239
why wouldn't you be talking to both okay

2350
01:21:57,750 --> 01:21:56,560
bipartisan issue okay

2351
01:21:58,709 --> 01:21:57,760
and so

2352
01:22:01,669 --> 01:21:58,719
that

2353
01:22:03,830 --> 01:22:01,679
outed them now maybe it didn't out them

2354
01:22:05,750 --> 01:22:03,840
too much in the general public awareness

2355
01:22:06,870 --> 01:22:05,760
but behind the scenes

2356
01:22:09,270 --> 01:22:06,880
right

2357
01:22:11,270 --> 01:22:09,280
the people in the know the people

2358
01:22:12,629 --> 01:22:11,280
in influence and politics and military

2359
01:22:14,709 --> 01:22:12,639
they figured it out

2360
01:22:16,470 --> 01:22:14,719
they made inquiries and they realized

2361
01:22:17,990 --> 01:22:16,480
jesus christ this they guys were

2362
01:22:20,950 --> 01:22:18,000
planning to do that

2363
01:22:22,790 --> 01:22:20,960
so okay so

2364
01:22:24,950 --> 01:22:22,800
the election went the other way

2365
01:22:27,430 --> 01:22:24,960
and they're sitting there

2366
01:22:29,990 --> 01:22:27,440
kind of hung out to dry

2367
01:22:33,030 --> 01:22:30,000
uh the plan that they had was so good it

2368
01:22:34,950 --> 01:22:33,040
was so wonderful short minimal risk

2369
01:22:37,030 --> 01:22:34,960
what the hell do we do

2370
01:22:39,590 --> 01:22:37,040
because the fundamental problem like a

2371
01:22:40,470 --> 01:22:39,600
tv show

2372
01:22:41,750 --> 01:22:40,480
well

2373
01:22:44,229 --> 01:22:41,760
a lot of things

2374
01:22:45,510 --> 01:22:44,239
do we do something or do we do nothing

2375
01:22:47,510 --> 01:22:45,520
and and

2376
01:22:48,950 --> 01:22:47,520
you know one of the problems they faced

2377
01:22:50,950 --> 01:22:48,960
was

2378
01:22:52,709 --> 01:22:50,960
is that look even if they concluded

2379
01:22:54,470 --> 01:22:52,719
there was zero chance that donald trump

2380
01:22:55,830 --> 01:22:54,480
was going to do a disclosure thing which

2381
01:22:58,629 --> 01:22:55,840
would have been a very reasonable

2382
01:23:00,470 --> 01:22:58,639
assertion or a conclusion

2383
01:23:02,870 --> 01:23:00,480
they're still at risk of putin or xi

2384
01:23:05,110 --> 01:23:02,880
jinping doing it and if

2385
01:23:07,830 --> 01:23:05,120
and if putin were to do it

2386
01:23:09,430 --> 01:23:07,840
okay uh the political class would have

2387
01:23:10,790 --> 01:23:09,440
done the same thing

2388
01:23:12,070 --> 01:23:10,800
people would say how

2389
01:23:14,390 --> 01:23:12,080
how is it that we're learning this from

2390
01:23:16,070 --> 01:23:14,400
vladimir putin why didn't the president

2391
01:23:17,990 --> 01:23:16,080
tell us

2392
01:23:19,750 --> 01:23:18,000
we were stonewalled by the by the dod

2393
01:23:21,030 --> 01:23:19,760
they lied to us they they prevented it

2394
01:23:22,070 --> 01:23:21,040
they stopped it they classified

2395
01:23:24,629 --> 01:23:22,080
everything they're still gonna get

2396
01:23:27,830 --> 01:23:24,639
thrown under the bus either way and so

2397
01:23:29,990 --> 01:23:27,840
these these men these nine men

2398
01:23:34,229 --> 01:23:30,000
and one woman

2399
01:23:35,270 --> 01:23:34,239
did something very heroic very patriotic

2400
01:23:37,830 --> 01:23:35,280
after

2401
01:23:39,430 --> 01:23:37,840
eight months of thinking about it

2402
01:23:40,870 --> 01:23:39,440
nine months

2403
01:23:43,189 --> 01:23:40,880
they decided we're going to go forward

2404
01:23:45,030 --> 01:23:43,199
anyway and they launched the ttsa in

2405
01:23:46,470 --> 01:23:45,040
october 10

2406
01:23:48,790 --> 01:23:46,480
of uh

2407
01:23:51,430 --> 01:23:48,800
19 2017

2408
01:23:54,310 --> 01:23:51,440
and then began the plan

2409
01:23:55,430 --> 01:23:54,320
okay um trust me they did

2410
01:23:57,830 --> 01:23:55,440
and they and and they raised five

2411
01:23:59,189 --> 01:23:57,840
million dollars okay that's good uh but

2412
01:24:01,830 --> 01:23:59,199
trust me they didn't launch this thing

2413
01:24:04,149 --> 01:24:01,840
go okay now what do we do now anybody

2414
01:24:05,350 --> 01:24:04,159
got any ideas let's spitball this a

2415
01:24:07,910 --> 01:24:05,360
little bit what do you think what's the

2416
01:24:09,189 --> 01:24:07,920
next move all right getting more videos

2417
01:24:11,910 --> 01:24:09,199
or was that it

2418
01:24:14,830 --> 01:24:11,920
the next move is we get down we get we

2419
01:24:18,070 --> 01:24:14,840
get we we arrange for a story to be

2420
01:24:20,229 --> 01:24:18,080
delivered to the new york times a major

2421
01:24:22,870 --> 01:24:20,239
blockbuster historic story

2422
01:24:25,189 --> 01:24:22,880
and the the way that was done was with

2423
01:24:28,229 --> 01:24:25,199
ralph blumenthal and leslie kane

2424
01:24:29,590 --> 01:24:28,239
uh i think they went to them first

2425
01:24:30,790 --> 01:24:29,600
now positive i think they went to them

2426
01:24:32,550 --> 01:24:30,800
first and then they went to the new york

2427
01:24:33,830 --> 01:24:32,560
times perfectly

2428
01:24:36,070 --> 01:24:33,840
smart approach

2429
01:24:37,750 --> 01:24:36,080
kane is a journalist right

2430
01:24:39,510 --> 01:24:37,760
so

2431
01:24:41,750 --> 01:24:39,520
those articles changed history those

2432
01:24:44,470 --> 01:24:41,760
were huge those are a big deal right so

2433
01:24:46,550 --> 01:24:44,480
that starts the ball in motion

2434
01:24:48,870 --> 01:24:46,560
and do you think they went okay we got

2435
01:24:50,709 --> 01:24:48,880
the articles in let's just sit back

2436
01:24:53,270 --> 01:24:50,719
spend the 5 million bucks and take our

2437
01:24:54,310 --> 01:24:53,280
time no no no no no no no they had much

2438
01:24:55,669 --> 01:24:54,320
more to do

2439
01:24:57,510 --> 01:24:55,679
and so

2440
01:24:59,350 --> 01:24:57,520
the next major project was getting a

2441
01:25:00,870 --> 01:24:59,360
history channel show up

2442
01:25:03,189 --> 01:25:00,880
and they worked with history to get that

2443
01:25:04,629 --> 01:25:03,199
done and they put up unidentified

2444
01:25:06,629 --> 01:25:04,639
and so that was that was pretty good

2445
01:25:08,149 --> 01:25:06,639
pretty significant uh advanced the

2446
01:25:09,430 --> 01:25:08,159
witness stuff

2447
01:25:11,669 --> 01:25:09,440
and then

2448
01:25:13,189 --> 01:25:11,679
a book was done this was done tom's

2449
01:25:14,790 --> 01:25:13,199
given interviews they started doing

2450
01:25:18,070 --> 01:25:14,800
limited amount of interviews

2451
01:25:20,470 --> 01:25:18,080
uh but the next but then came

2452
01:25:21,669 --> 01:25:20,480
the real agenda in other words in other

2453
01:25:23,669 --> 01:25:21,679
words

2454
01:25:25,189 --> 01:25:23,679
this project had many possibilities and

2455
01:25:27,110 --> 01:25:25,199
many facets that would be helpful in

2456
01:25:29,110 --> 01:25:27,120
various ways obviously if it raised a

2457
01:25:30,390 --> 01:25:29,120
ton of money that's good if they if they

2458
01:25:31,990 --> 01:25:30,400
developed an entertainment division

2459
01:25:33,430 --> 01:25:32,000
that's good but

2460
01:25:36,229 --> 01:25:33,440
that's that's all

2461
01:25:37,910 --> 01:25:36,239
secondary to the agenda the agenda was

2462
01:25:39,430 --> 01:25:37,920
disclosure

2463
01:25:41,110 --> 01:25:39,440
okay so what

2464
01:25:43,590 --> 01:25:41,120
how did they serve

2465
01:25:45,990 --> 01:25:43,600
that which is the key agenda

2466
01:25:48,310 --> 01:25:46,000
my view is that agenda rested with two

2467
01:25:51,430 --> 01:25:48,320
people melon and elizondo from the

2468
01:25:53,030 --> 01:25:51,440
beginning all right and so while still

2469
01:25:55,510 --> 01:25:53,040
with the ttsa

2470
01:25:57,189 --> 01:25:55,520
elizondo and melon started to do their

2471
01:26:00,550 --> 01:25:57,199
thing

2472
01:26:02,070 --> 01:26:00,560
melon

2473
01:26:03,030 --> 01:26:02,080
naturally with his background goes up on

2474
01:26:05,590 --> 01:26:03,040
the hill

2475
01:26:06,830 --> 01:26:05,600
he's starting the political discussions

2476
01:26:09,990 --> 01:26:06,840
right

2477
01:26:11,430 --> 01:26:10,000
elizondo uh which was very much resonant

2478
01:26:13,430 --> 01:26:11,440
to what happened in the unidentified

2479
01:26:15,590 --> 01:26:13,440
series you literally saw him driving out

2480
01:26:17,110 --> 01:26:15,600
to potential witnesses homes and sitting

2481
01:26:18,550 --> 01:26:17,120
down in the dining room and talking to

2482
01:26:20,149 --> 01:26:18,560
him about it what's he doing he's

2483
01:26:22,070 --> 01:26:20,159
vetting witnesses

2484
01:26:24,310 --> 01:26:22,080
it's estimated hundreds of potential

2485
01:26:25,830 --> 01:26:24,320
military witnesses contacted elizondo

2486
01:26:27,590 --> 01:26:25,840
once they saw that once they saw what

2487
01:26:29,110 --> 01:26:27,600
was happening there was i i got a

2488
01:26:32,390 --> 01:26:29,120
storage every bit as big as the nimitz

2489
01:26:34,550 --> 01:26:32,400
case right who do i call what your

2490
01:26:36,870 --> 01:26:34,560
pastor the new york times your

2491
01:26:38,629 --> 01:26:36,880
congressman you call lu elizondo of

2492
01:26:40,310 --> 01:26:38,639
course and so he was in a perfect

2493
01:26:41,990 --> 01:26:40,320
position to vet witnesses potential

2494
01:26:42,870 --> 01:26:42,000
witnesses and i believe that what he was

2495
01:26:44,390 --> 01:26:42,880
doing

2496
01:26:46,229 --> 01:26:44,400
eventually mellon starts taking

2497
01:26:47,990 --> 01:26:46,239
witnesses up on the hill in other words

2498
01:26:49,669 --> 01:26:48,000
i i need to talk to you uh congressman

2499
01:26:50,629 --> 01:26:49,679
you're on the armed services committee

2500
01:26:52,149 --> 01:26:50,639
i'd like to bring a couple of the

2501
01:26:54,790 --> 01:26:52,159
witnesses to the nimitz event with me

2502
01:26:56,310 --> 01:26:54,800
and you could we'll brief you

2503
01:26:57,910 --> 01:26:56,320
these went on for a couple of years i

2504
01:26:59,430 --> 01:26:57,920
believe how many members were briefed we

2505
01:27:01,270 --> 01:26:59,440
don't know i heard a rumor he briefed

2506
01:27:02,070 --> 01:27:01,280
the entire senate intel committee at one

2507
01:27:03,990 --> 01:27:02,080
time

2508
01:27:05,510 --> 01:27:04,000
doesn't matter he did a lot of briefing

2509
01:27:07,990 --> 01:27:05,520
i assure you

2510
01:27:10,310 --> 01:27:08,000
and at some point in this process

2511
01:27:12,149 --> 01:27:10,320
something predictable happened elizondo

2512
01:27:13,590 --> 01:27:12,159
and melon stepped out of the ttsa

2513
01:27:17,270 --> 01:27:13,600
remembers they left the group they left

2514
01:27:19,590 --> 01:27:17,280
the they left the high why because

2515
01:27:21,669 --> 01:27:19,600
at some point they're now in the

2516
01:27:23,830 --> 01:27:21,679
you know in the heart of the process of

2517
01:27:26,149 --> 01:27:23,840
moving towards hearings dealing with

2518
01:27:29,350 --> 01:27:26,159
members of congress dealing with whip

2519
01:27:31,910 --> 01:27:29,360
witnesses in the context of testifying

2520
01:27:34,790 --> 01:27:31,920
it was not appropriate for them to be

2521
01:27:37,830 --> 01:27:34,800
doing this as members of a

2522
01:27:38,790 --> 01:27:37,840
research entertainment organization

2523
01:27:42,709 --> 01:27:38,800
right

2524
01:27:46,070 --> 01:27:42,719
that's how it got started remember the

2525
01:27:47,270 --> 01:27:46,080
initial plan is boom bam and gone i mean

2526
01:27:49,030 --> 01:27:47,280
they wouldn't have had to go through all

2527
01:27:50,470 --> 01:27:49,040
those they they wouldn't have had it

2528
01:27:51,910 --> 01:27:50,480
would have been hillary clinton lining

2529
01:27:54,390 --> 01:27:51,920
up the freaking witnesses for crying out

2530
01:27:56,070 --> 01:27:54,400
loud but no so they they step out and

2531
01:28:01,910 --> 01:27:56,080
continue the process

2532
01:28:03,510 --> 01:28:01,920
uh focusing on pretty much the intel and

2533
01:28:05,189 --> 01:28:03,520
armed services committee i mean he's not

2534
01:28:06,790 --> 01:28:05,199
just briefing anybody he runs into the

2535
01:28:08,310 --> 01:28:06,800
cafeteria there

2536
01:28:09,910 --> 01:28:08,320
and guess what

2537
01:28:10,870 --> 01:28:09,920
at some point

2538
01:28:13,750 --> 01:28:10,880
enough

2539
01:28:14,390 --> 01:28:13,760
groundwork had been laid

2540
01:28:16,149 --> 01:28:14,400
that

2541
01:28:17,990 --> 01:28:16,159
a distinguished member of our united

2542
01:28:19,669 --> 01:28:18,000
states congress made the first move the

2543
01:28:21,350 --> 01:28:19,679
first what i would call legislative move

2544
01:28:22,550 --> 01:28:21,360
there have been members of congress that

2545
01:28:23,910 --> 01:28:22,560
have stepped to this a little bit in the

2546
01:28:25,910 --> 01:28:23,920
past

2547
01:28:28,950 --> 01:28:25,920
and that happened to be marco rubio not

2548
01:28:30,870 --> 01:28:28,960
surprisingly a member of the uh right

2549
01:28:33,270 --> 01:28:30,880
side of the aisle

2550
01:28:35,669 --> 01:28:33,280
who comes forward and and with a within

2551
01:28:37,350 --> 01:28:35,679
language for a bill that pretty much

2552
01:28:39,350 --> 01:28:37,360
starts the ball rolling that's the

2553
01:28:42,149 --> 01:28:39,360
beginning all right

2554
01:28:44,310 --> 01:28:42,159
and since then one politician after

2555
01:28:46,229 --> 01:28:44,320
another has stepped into this and every

2556
01:28:48,229 --> 01:28:46,239
time one does

2557
01:28:50,070 --> 01:28:48,239
the rest of them are all watching to see

2558
01:28:51,990 --> 01:28:50,080
what's going to happen right

2559
01:28:53,510 --> 01:28:52,000
is somebody going to blow up his mailbox

2560
01:28:55,350 --> 01:28:53,520
is he going to get hate mail is he going

2561
01:28:56,950 --> 01:28:55,360
to need a security detail if you're

2562
01:29:00,310 --> 01:28:56,960
going to lose his election right

2563
01:29:01,750 --> 01:29:00,320
whatever and what they're discovering is

2564
01:29:05,110 --> 01:29:01,760
bupkus

2565
01:29:07,110 --> 01:29:05,120
nicole nine nothing okay it's fine in

2566
01:29:08,149 --> 01:29:07,120
fact

2567
01:29:14,629 --> 01:29:08,159
kudos

2568
01:29:16,790 --> 01:29:14,639
guy right uh gallego

2569
01:29:18,870 --> 01:29:16,800
very authentic of you sir

2570
01:29:21,590 --> 01:29:18,880
and then of course marco got a whole lot

2571
01:29:23,110 --> 01:29:21,600
of great press out of that and then uh

2572
01:29:24,390 --> 01:29:23,120
the you know gillibrand is sitting over

2573
01:29:26,470 --> 01:29:24,400
there going you know i could use some of

2574
01:29:28,470 --> 01:29:26,480
that press mark warner could have

2575
01:29:30,229 --> 01:29:28,480
stepped in but that would have been kind

2576
01:29:31,750 --> 01:29:30,239
of inappropriate

2577
01:29:33,430 --> 01:29:31,760
warner was the chair

2578
01:29:37,110 --> 01:29:33,440
rubio was not the chair though a

2579
01:29:38,870 --> 01:29:37,120
co-chair and so for him to follow rubio

2580
01:29:40,550 --> 01:29:38,880
would have been wrong so killer brand

2581
01:29:41,910 --> 01:29:40,560
does it yeah so that means the democrats

2582
01:29:44,070 --> 01:29:41,920
are on record she puts additional

2583
01:29:47,510 --> 01:29:44,080
language in when diego was watching this

2584
01:29:51,350 --> 01:29:49,270
down here you know this is the house of

2585
01:29:53,030 --> 01:29:51,360
representatives i mean yeah that's right

2586
01:29:55,110 --> 01:29:53,040
we're not so i'm putting language in a

2587
01:29:57,030 --> 01:29:55,120
bill myself well they're smart about it

2588
01:29:57,910 --> 01:29:57,040
too it's you know they're they're not

2589
01:29:59,910 --> 01:29:57,920
saying

2590
01:30:02,149 --> 01:29:59,920
that it's uh extraterrestrial

2591
01:30:03,750 --> 01:30:02,159
necessarily they always put it a part of

2592
01:30:05,990 --> 01:30:03,760
it but they go if there's things flying

2593
01:30:07,750 --> 01:30:06,000
around our ships we got to figure out

2594
01:30:09,910 --> 01:30:07,760
what it is

2595
01:30:11,510 --> 01:30:09,920
i have an idea for something i'd like to

2596
01:30:12,870 --> 01:30:11,520
do one day or something i'm so freaking

2597
01:30:15,270 --> 01:30:12,880
powerful and wonderful that people do

2598
01:30:17,270 --> 01:30:15,280
anything damn thing i want is like i i'd

2599
01:30:19,590 --> 01:30:17,280
like to i'd like

2600
01:30:21,110 --> 01:30:19,600
i'd like to it would be a fun thing you

2601
01:30:23,350 --> 01:30:21,120
know it'd be it wouldn't it would be

2602
01:30:25,669 --> 01:30:23,360
safe and it would be fun i'd like to get

2603
01:30:27,510 --> 01:30:25,679
every single member of the united states

2604
01:30:29,590 --> 01:30:27,520
congress including you know all the

2605
01:30:30,390 --> 01:30:29,600
senators and all the representatives

2606
01:30:32,950 --> 01:30:30,400
right

2607
01:30:34,550 --> 01:30:32,960
and get them all together for a group

2608
01:30:36,470 --> 01:30:34,560
moment

2609
01:30:39,030 --> 01:30:36,480
on the the uh

2610
01:30:40,790 --> 01:30:39,040
what is it it's the east side of the uh

2611
01:30:42,310 --> 01:30:40,800
of the capital right

2612
01:30:43,750 --> 01:30:42,320
that's where they have all that parking

2613
01:30:45,110 --> 01:30:43,760
line everything it's huge big step the

2614
01:30:47,910 --> 01:30:45,120
front side is more it's got all the

2615
01:30:49,110 --> 01:30:47,920
grass and stuff and so they're all 500

2616
01:30:51,350 --> 01:30:49,120
and

2617
01:30:52,629 --> 01:30:51,360
535 all right they're all all there

2618
01:30:54,149 --> 01:30:52,639
together

2619
01:30:55,430 --> 01:30:54,159
we got the camera set up and everything

2620
01:30:57,030 --> 01:30:55,440
got the great sound the pickup

2621
01:30:58,950 --> 01:30:57,040
everything

2622
01:31:01,510 --> 01:30:58,960
and on cue

2623
01:31:03,990 --> 01:31:01,520
all of them say it once

2624
01:31:06,790 --> 01:31:04,000
we're not saying it's extraterrestrial

2625
01:31:11,110 --> 01:31:06,800
but it's extraterrestrial

2626
01:31:15,189 --> 01:31:13,030
and georgios locus of course would be

2627
01:31:16,950 --> 01:31:15,199
there i gotta do that yeah silent he

2628
01:31:18,629 --> 01:31:16,960
wouldn't say anything

2629
01:31:19,910 --> 01:31:18,639
he would be in the front but he wouldn't

2630
01:31:21,830 --> 01:31:19,920
be mentioned i mean people have to find

2631
01:31:23,830 --> 01:31:21,840
them later wait a minute isn't that

2632
01:31:25,750 --> 01:31:23,840
giorgio sukloco standing next to marco

2633
01:31:26,950 --> 01:31:25,760
rubio i see

2634
01:31:28,709 --> 01:31:26,960
you okay

2635
01:31:31,110 --> 01:31:28,719
i would love to do that and would that

2636
01:31:32,629 --> 01:31:31,120
not perfectly summarize what is going on

2637
01:31:35,750 --> 01:31:32,639
now we're not saying it's

2638
01:31:37,350 --> 01:31:35,760
extraterrestrial but it is aliens

2639
01:31:40,390 --> 01:31:37,360
you just see him hiding behind but his

2640
01:31:42,950 --> 01:31:40,400
hair is peeking out behind

2641
01:31:44,229 --> 01:31:42,960
and why is that and oh that's yeah

2642
01:31:46,149 --> 01:31:44,239
that's the other thing i wanted to point

2643
01:31:48,629 --> 01:31:46,159
out look

2644
01:31:49,830 --> 01:31:48,639
for those of you that are confused

2645
01:31:51,270 --> 01:31:49,840
for those of you that are a little

2646
01:31:52,870 --> 01:31:51,280
frustrated that like why don't they just

2647
01:31:54,709 --> 01:31:52,880
tell us for god's sakes

2648
01:31:56,149 --> 01:31:54,719
uh and why is he saying that why are

2649
01:31:57,750 --> 01:31:56,159
they doing that i mean those of you that

2650
01:32:00,310 --> 01:31:57,760
know anything about this issue a good

2651
01:32:02,470 --> 01:32:00,320
deal of what's happening is ridiculous

2652
01:32:04,229 --> 01:32:02,480
yeah you know it's ridiculous it's like

2653
01:32:06,550 --> 01:32:04,239
your kid you know coming into the

2654
01:32:08,390 --> 01:32:06,560
bedroom right no no you going into the

2655
01:32:10,310 --> 01:32:08,400
kid's bedroom and he's sitting there

2656
01:32:11,750 --> 01:32:10,320
he's got cake all over him so chocolate

2657
01:32:13,350 --> 01:32:11,760
cake is in his hair and everything and

2658
01:32:14,870 --> 01:32:13,360
he says

2659
01:32:16,709 --> 01:32:14,880
have you been in the chocolate cake and

2660
01:32:17,430 --> 01:32:16,719
the kid says

2661
01:32:25,830 --> 01:32:17,440
no

2662
01:32:27,590 --> 01:32:25,840
about the e.t president since 47.

2663
01:32:30,149 --> 01:32:27,600
they've been researching the phenomena

2664
01:32:31,910 --> 01:32:30,159
and the issue with technology since 47.

2665
01:32:33,430 --> 01:32:31,920
they get underground facilities usap

2666
01:32:35,110 --> 01:32:33,440
programs right they spend hundreds of

2667
01:32:36,470 --> 01:32:35,120
millions and billions of dollars on the

2668
01:32:38,470 --> 01:32:36,480
e.t issue

2669
01:32:41,510 --> 01:32:38,480
yeah and so

2670
01:32:42,470 --> 01:32:41,520
to the extent that anything looks like

2671
01:32:43,270 --> 01:32:42,480
you know

2672
01:32:46,790 --> 01:32:43,280
uh

2673
01:32:49,189 --> 01:32:46,800
this phenomenon

2674
01:32:51,110 --> 01:32:49,199
this may be real one of the spreading

2675
01:32:52,709 --> 01:32:51,120
ufos are real

2676
01:32:54,870 --> 01:32:52,719
is that i'm going what

2677
01:32:57,189 --> 01:32:54,880
you know what he's like it's like in

2678
01:32:59,350 --> 01:32:57,199
other words you're saying you know uh

2679
01:33:00,550 --> 01:32:59,360
i saw i saw this bus in the distance but

2680
01:33:03,350 --> 01:33:00,560
i'm not sure

2681
01:33:04,790 --> 01:33:03,360
whether it was route 4 or route 8.

2682
01:33:06,310 --> 01:33:04,800
and then somebody says yeah but was it

2683
01:33:11,270 --> 01:33:06,320
real

2684
01:33:12,709 --> 01:33:11,280
why are we talking about it i mean it's

2685
01:33:14,229 --> 01:33:12,719
the kind of stuff that drives me crazy

2686
01:33:15,270 --> 01:33:14,239
how do you know it was a real buzz yeah

2687
01:33:17,350 --> 01:33:15,280
that was a really blessed could be a

2688
01:33:19,830 --> 01:33:17,360
total figment of your imagination so no

2689
01:33:21,270 --> 01:33:19,840
no so all of these years

2690
01:33:23,189 --> 01:33:21,280
so so when they when they're out there

2691
01:33:24,470 --> 01:33:23,199
and they form a they form a group inside

2692
01:33:27,510 --> 01:33:24,480
the pentagon

2693
01:33:29,030 --> 01:33:27,520
to uh appropriately report

2694
01:33:31,270 --> 01:33:29,040
sightings that are coming in from the

2695
01:33:32,629 --> 01:33:31,280
military as if

2696
01:33:34,390 --> 01:33:32,639
well we

2697
01:33:36,470 --> 01:33:34,400
really never done that before and we

2698
01:33:38,149 --> 01:33:36,480
definitely track things like that and we

2699
01:33:39,189 --> 01:33:38,159
don't talk to pilots all right no no no

2700
01:33:40,709 --> 01:33:39,199
no no no no we don't

2701
01:33:42,790 --> 01:33:40,719
well we didn't think it was important

2702
01:33:46,390 --> 01:33:42,800
enough but now i think you've made your

2703
01:33:47,750 --> 01:33:46,400
point uh 20 21 22 it's time to do that

2704
01:33:49,669 --> 01:33:47,760
there's a lot of people that think are

2705
01:33:51,350 --> 01:33:49,679
you kidding me are you this is

2706
01:33:52,790 --> 01:33:51,360
absolutely

2707
01:33:57,350 --> 01:33:52,800
insane

2708
01:33:58,950 --> 01:33:57,360
stuff like this that goes on and on and

2709
01:34:00,310 --> 01:33:58,960
on and so

2710
01:34:01,590 --> 01:34:00,320
what i tell people if you want to keep

2711
01:34:02,870 --> 01:34:01,600
your sanity

2712
01:34:05,990 --> 01:34:02,880
and if you don't want to get too worked

2713
01:34:07,110 --> 01:34:06,000
up i never get worked up myself right i

2714
01:34:08,870 --> 01:34:07,120
want you to be like me i want you to be

2715
01:34:10,629 --> 01:34:08,880
calm i want you to be grounded all the

2716
01:34:12,470 --> 01:34:10,639
time not get worked up about it just you

2717
01:34:13,430 --> 01:34:12,480
know relax

2718
01:34:15,990 --> 01:34:13,440
i do

2719
01:34:23,750 --> 01:34:16,000
have a large supply of xanax so the

2720
01:34:28,229 --> 01:34:26,149
i'm good for a nuclear war you know two

2721
01:34:31,750 --> 01:34:28,239
years i'm good right come back out

2722
01:34:33,590 --> 01:34:31,760
return to normal uh so

2723
01:34:35,510 --> 01:34:33,600
here is what you have to remind yourself

2724
01:34:37,350 --> 01:34:35,520
every time you see an interview of

2725
01:34:39,110 --> 01:34:37,360
michio kaku who by the way was on joe

2726
01:34:40,790 --> 01:34:39,120
rogan today basically said it looks to

2727
01:34:42,390 --> 01:34:40,800
me you know pretty much said

2728
01:34:43,910 --> 01:34:42,400
i'm not saying it's extraterrestrial but

2729
01:34:48,310 --> 01:34:43,920
it's expected

2730
01:34:51,430 --> 01:34:48,320
i gotta hear that yeah that was today um

2731
01:34:53,189 --> 01:34:51,440
you got you gotta say look

2732
01:34:55,590 --> 01:34:53,199
uh

2733
01:34:59,910 --> 01:34:57,270
they already know

2734
01:35:02,550 --> 01:34:59,920
and what's going on now is not suddenly

2735
01:35:04,629 --> 01:35:02,560
finding out what's going on now is the

2736
01:35:06,070 --> 01:35:04,639
jig is up the truth embargoes days are

2737
01:35:08,470 --> 01:35:06,080
coming to an end

2738
01:35:10,390 --> 01:35:08,480
and it's not like they got their hand in

2739
01:35:13,109 --> 01:35:10,400
a cookie jar you know it's like oh i

2740
01:35:14,390 --> 01:35:13,119
took the cookies right i confess

2741
01:35:16,790 --> 01:35:14,400
they're having they're going to have to

2742
01:35:19,430 --> 01:35:16,800
deal with how they why they lied to the

2743
01:35:21,270 --> 01:35:19,440
world and the american people for

2744
01:35:23,510 --> 01:35:21,280
seven and a half decades about the most

2745
01:35:25,590 --> 01:35:23,520
important information in the world

2746
01:35:26,950 --> 01:35:25,600
with more implications to the world any

2747
01:35:29,270 --> 01:35:26,960
other piece of information you can

2748
01:35:30,470 --> 01:35:29,280
imagine i'd love to hear a superior

2749
01:35:33,109 --> 01:35:30,480
example

2750
01:35:35,189 --> 01:35:33,119
and this is not going to be easy

2751
01:35:37,030 --> 01:35:35,199
ending that lie

2752
01:35:39,189 --> 01:35:37,040
right i mean everybody remembers they

2753
01:35:40,390 --> 01:35:39,199
were a kid and they banged up the car no

2754
01:35:41,430 --> 01:35:40,400
they didn't bang up the car what did

2755
01:35:43,910 --> 01:35:41,440
they do

2756
01:35:45,910 --> 01:35:43,920
they ran over the neighbor's dog and so

2757
01:35:47,990 --> 01:35:45,920
consequently and they and the neighbor

2758
01:35:49,830 --> 01:35:48,000
you know that parents love that dog and

2759
01:35:51,669 --> 01:35:49,840
so it's like

2760
01:35:53,270 --> 01:35:51,679
they lied about it for six months and

2761
01:35:54,709 --> 01:35:53,280
then they're her

2762
01:35:56,229 --> 01:35:54,719
the sister

2763
01:35:58,070 --> 01:35:56,239
sort of knew something and told the

2764
01:35:59,430 --> 01:35:58,080
neighbors and they and the kid realized

2765
01:36:01,990 --> 01:35:59,440
he's gonna have to

2766
01:36:05,189 --> 01:36:02,000
go to his parents and say you know daddy

2767
01:36:07,510 --> 01:36:05,199
mommy i i i did one other neighbor's dog

2768
01:36:09,189 --> 01:36:07,520
and i'm really sorry you know it was it

2769
01:36:12,790 --> 01:36:09,199
was you know he ran out in front of the

2770
01:36:16,310 --> 01:36:12,800
car it's not at that level

2771
01:36:17,350 --> 01:36:16,320
it's a million times bigger than that

2772
01:36:18,709 --> 01:36:17,360
and so

2773
01:36:20,390 --> 01:36:18,719
i'm trying to be i'm trying to be

2774
01:36:23,430 --> 01:36:20,400
conservative here it's a million times

2775
01:36:26,070 --> 01:36:23,440
bigger than that so how do you end that

2776
01:36:28,470 --> 01:36:26,080
how do you get out from under a policy

2777
01:36:29,350 --> 01:36:28,480
right now in a in a national security

2778
01:36:30,790 --> 01:36:29,360
state

2779
01:36:33,270 --> 01:36:30,800
it's easy

2780
01:36:35,030 --> 01:36:33,280
you just say hey here's the truth now if

2781
01:36:37,510 --> 01:36:35,040
you if you have a problem with it he

2782
01:36:39,270 --> 01:36:37,520
will be happy to kill you

2783
01:36:41,109 --> 01:36:39,280
and after they kill you know a few

2784
01:36:42,790 --> 01:36:41,119
hundred thousand people people go oh

2785
01:36:44,870 --> 01:36:42,800
yeah we got no problem with that no

2786
01:36:47,750 --> 01:36:44,880
problem whatsoever this is not a

2787
01:36:50,149 --> 01:36:47,760
national security state it is not a uh

2788
01:36:51,830 --> 01:36:50,159
an autocratic uh culture yet

2789
01:36:53,990 --> 01:36:51,840
right there are people toying with the

2790
01:36:56,550 --> 01:36:54,000
idea hopefully they'll be gone soon

2791
01:36:57,590 --> 01:36:56,560
so how do you end it here's how you do

2792
01:37:17,270 --> 01:36:57,600
it

2793
01:37:18,709 --> 01:37:17,280
who has screwed up monumentally i mean

2794
01:37:20,390 --> 01:37:18,719
to the point

2795
01:37:21,669 --> 01:37:20,400
where uh

2796
01:37:23,590 --> 01:37:21,679
you're walking down the street and

2797
01:37:26,870 --> 01:37:23,600
people either start throwing things at

2798
01:37:29,750 --> 01:37:26,880
you or they flee i mean it's that awful

2799
01:37:32,830 --> 01:37:29,760
you hire a top crack public relations

2800
01:37:35,750 --> 01:37:32,840
firm whose job is it to restore your

2801
01:37:37,510 --> 01:37:35,760
credibility and believe it or not

2802
01:37:40,149 --> 01:37:37,520
it can work

2803
01:37:42,149 --> 01:37:40,159
not always uh ask harvey but the point

2804
01:37:44,790 --> 01:37:42,159
is is that it can work okay that's what

2805
01:37:47,270 --> 01:37:44,800
you have to do this whole thing going on

2806
01:37:50,070 --> 01:37:47,280
the hearings the coverage

2807
01:37:51,270 --> 01:37:50,080
uh the statements by various scientists

2808
01:37:53,189 --> 01:37:51,280
that are suddenly starting to see the

2809
01:37:56,070 --> 01:37:53,199
light everything

2810
01:37:57,510 --> 01:37:56,080
is a public relations process

2811
01:37:58,709 --> 01:37:57,520
designed

2812
01:38:00,070 --> 01:37:58,719
to

2813
01:38:00,830 --> 01:38:00,080
minimize

2814
01:38:06,629 --> 01:38:00,840
the

2815
01:38:09,910 --> 01:38:06,639
and any you know actual uh

2816
01:38:11,350 --> 01:38:09,920
substantive effects negative effects

2817
01:38:13,270 --> 01:38:11,360
on their person

2818
01:38:15,430 --> 01:38:13,280
or their institution

2819
01:38:17,910 --> 01:38:15,440
when disclosure ends

2820
01:38:20,229 --> 01:38:17,920
okay it's like you know just kind of so

2821
01:38:21,910 --> 01:38:20,239
it's like softening up the beach yeah

2822
01:38:23,590 --> 01:38:21,920
soften the beach up with a couple of

2823
01:38:25,109 --> 01:38:23,600
days of arturi

2824
01:38:26,470 --> 01:38:25,119
and then the troops can land without

2825
01:38:27,510 --> 01:38:26,480
getting slaughtered it's kind of like

2826
01:38:35,270 --> 01:38:27,520
that

2827
01:38:37,590 --> 01:38:35,280
the early 90s uh 93 94 which happened to

2828
01:38:38,870 --> 01:38:37,600
coincide by the way with exactly the

2829
01:38:41,030 --> 01:38:38,880
same time that the rockefeller

2830
01:38:42,149 --> 01:38:41,040
initiative was underway okay

2831
01:38:43,990 --> 01:38:42,159
administration

2832
01:38:46,229 --> 01:38:44,000
lawrence

2833
01:38:47,990 --> 01:38:46,239
the department of defense

2834
01:38:50,229 --> 01:38:48,000
i have a contact on this i'm not going

2835
01:38:51,189 --> 01:38:50,239
to say it is and you know and somebody

2836
01:38:53,669 --> 01:38:51,199
wants to

2837
01:38:54,550 --> 01:38:53,679
confirm it go go contact the firm but

2838
01:38:56,149 --> 01:38:54,560
i'm not going to give you the name of

2839
01:38:57,189 --> 01:38:56,159
the firm either i would i would to a

2840
01:38:58,790 --> 01:38:57,199
journalist

2841
01:39:00,070 --> 01:38:58,800
off the record and they can contact him

2842
01:39:01,510 --> 01:39:00,080
of course the firm will tell them i have

2843
01:39:02,709 --> 01:39:01,520
no idea what you're talking about the

2844
01:39:04,470 --> 01:39:02,719
point is is it

2845
01:39:06,310 --> 01:39:04,480
and it's not a huge thing but it it's

2846
01:39:07,990 --> 01:39:06,320
it's it's it's it's a good story it's

2847
01:39:09,350 --> 01:39:08,000
relevant

2848
01:39:11,590 --> 01:39:09,360
uh the apartment feds put out a

2849
01:39:13,350 --> 01:39:11,600
multi-million dollar multi-year contract

2850
01:39:15,590 --> 01:39:13,360
to the top public relations firm in

2851
01:39:17,750 --> 01:39:15,600
washington dc they have some pretty good

2852
01:39:18,629 --> 01:39:17,760
firms there you can imagine right talk

2853
01:39:20,870 --> 01:39:18,639
about

2854
01:39:22,790 --> 01:39:20,880
people that often need

2855
01:39:24,629 --> 01:39:22,800
really to reclaim their

2856
01:39:26,790 --> 01:39:24,639
their their integrity and their their

2857
01:39:28,390 --> 01:39:26,800
career and so forth added a lot of them

2858
01:39:30,149 --> 01:39:28,400
so

2859
01:39:32,310 --> 01:39:30,159
a couple of years was spent on this and

2860
01:39:35,109 --> 01:39:32,320
millions of dollars and sometime later

2861
01:39:36,709 --> 01:39:35,119
in the 90s the report was written they

2862
01:39:39,270 --> 01:39:36,719
returned the product the work product

2863
01:39:42,310 --> 01:39:39,280
back to the dod what was that contract

2864
01:39:45,990 --> 01:39:43,830
gain out

2865
01:39:47,350 --> 01:39:46,000
all the various ways

2866
01:39:49,430 --> 01:39:47,360
we could

2867
01:39:51,270 --> 01:39:49,440
end up confirming the extraterrestrial

2868
01:39:52,950 --> 01:39:51,280
presence the american people

2869
01:39:55,030 --> 01:39:52,960
how to go about it

2870
01:39:56,870 --> 01:39:55,040
upsides downside all that kind of stuff

2871
01:39:59,430 --> 01:39:56,880
i just gained the whole thing out okay

2872
01:40:02,070 --> 01:39:59,440
from a public relations perspective not

2873
01:40:03,430 --> 01:40:02,080
a necessarily national it's very so

2874
01:40:06,229 --> 01:40:03,440
interesting that you said that because

2875
01:40:07,830 --> 01:40:06,239
i've actually read a document from blue

2876
01:40:10,149 --> 01:40:07,840
book when they're thinking about

2877
01:40:11,910 --> 01:40:10,159
transferring this study somewhere to a

2878
01:40:14,149 --> 01:40:11,920
different department and they wanted to

2879
01:40:16,470 --> 01:40:14,159
transfer it solely to the public

2880
01:40:18,629 --> 01:40:16,480
relations stuff if you have got a link

2881
01:40:20,550 --> 01:40:18,639
to that i want to see it bad man i can

2882
01:40:22,550 --> 01:40:20,560
use that puppy get it to me if you can

2883
01:40:23,910 --> 01:40:22,560
find it okay oh yeah of course uh and

2884
01:40:25,430 --> 01:40:23,920
then the other part of the report was

2885
01:40:27,830 --> 01:40:25,440
okay

2886
01:40:29,510 --> 01:40:27,840
how do we deal with the post-disclosure

2887
01:40:30,950 --> 01:40:29,520
now as we've told the public what then

2888
01:40:32,790 --> 01:40:30,960
how is the public going to react what do

2889
01:40:35,350 --> 01:40:32,800
you think remember this is circa 1990

2890
01:40:36,709 --> 01:40:35,360
not 1960 brookings report which was a

2891
01:40:38,310 --> 01:40:36,719
load of bs

2892
01:40:40,070 --> 01:40:38,320
uh so

2893
01:40:43,189 --> 01:40:40,080
public relations they've been sitting on

2894
01:40:44,709 --> 01:40:43,199
that report since the late 90s

2895
01:40:46,070 --> 01:40:44,719
now you don't think they haven't scoped

2896
01:40:47,830 --> 01:40:46,080
that out further since you don't think

2897
01:40:49,270 --> 01:40:47,840
they haven't angled this from 19

2898
01:40:50,870 --> 01:40:49,280
different directions

2899
01:40:53,830 --> 01:40:50,880
of course they have they've got super

2900
01:40:54,790 --> 01:40:53,840
computers that run their super computers

2901
01:40:55,750 --> 01:40:54,800
okay

2902
01:40:58,950 --> 01:40:55,760
and so

2903
01:41:00,149 --> 01:40:58,960
this they're not caught by surprise

2904
01:41:02,229 --> 01:41:00,159
so

2905
01:41:03,109 --> 01:41:02,239
what they're doing everything they're

2906
01:41:05,510 --> 01:41:03,119
doing

2907
01:41:07,510 --> 01:41:05,520
where they put this who who does this

2908
01:41:09,270 --> 01:41:07,520
how they respond to the congress and and

2909
01:41:10,470 --> 01:41:09,280
to some degree even the congress i think

2910
01:41:12,310 --> 01:41:10,480
i think i think

2911
01:41:14,629 --> 01:41:12,320
i i don't think we're seeing what we'll

2912
01:41:16,629 --> 01:41:14,639
call explicit cooperation between the

2913
01:41:17,510 --> 01:41:16,639
dod and the congress to orchestrate this

2914
01:41:19,990 --> 01:41:17,520
thing

2915
01:41:22,229 --> 01:41:20,000
what i think we're seeing is two huge

2916
01:41:24,470 --> 01:41:22,239
significant entities of

2917
01:41:26,790 --> 01:41:24,480
institutions who are pretty much aware

2918
01:41:28,470 --> 01:41:26,800
of what the other side needs and they're

2919
01:41:30,070 --> 01:41:28,480
just working with them in that sense

2920
01:41:31,750 --> 01:41:30,080
right okay i'm pretty sure you need that

2921
01:41:33,510 --> 01:41:31,760
okay thank you well you need that thank

2922
01:41:36,629 --> 01:41:33,520
you but they're not getting together and

2923
01:41:38,149 --> 01:41:36,639
plotting out some conspiracy

2924
01:41:41,030 --> 01:41:38,159
so

2925
01:41:43,510 --> 01:41:41,040
the process here is

2926
01:41:45,750 --> 01:41:43,520
how do we get to disclosure how do we

2927
01:41:48,310 --> 01:41:45,760
maximize the positive

2928
01:41:49,590 --> 01:41:48,320
minimize the negative minimize the

2929
01:41:51,910 --> 01:41:49,600
damage

2930
01:41:53,270 --> 01:41:51,920
how do we come out of it as

2931
01:41:54,310 --> 01:41:53,280
best we can

2932
01:41:56,390 --> 01:41:54,320
okay

2933
01:41:58,149 --> 01:41:56,400
how do we how do we serve the public how

2934
01:41:59,109 --> 01:41:58,159
do we make it authentic how do we do it

2935
01:42:01,430 --> 01:41:59,119
right

2936
01:42:03,910 --> 01:42:01,440
and you know how do we minimize the

2937
01:42:06,149 --> 01:42:03,920
amount of shade we're gonna get

2938
01:42:07,270 --> 01:42:06,159
uh and this is not trivial because you

2939
01:42:08,790 --> 01:42:07,280
know these people you're talking about

2940
01:42:10,709 --> 01:42:08,800
careers you're talking about integrative

2941
01:42:11,990 --> 01:42:10,719
institutions uh you talked like the air

2942
01:42:14,229 --> 01:42:12,000
force for instance the air force needs a

2943
01:42:16,550 --> 01:42:14,239
public relations problem on this big

2944
01:42:18,870 --> 01:42:16,560
time their record on this is abysmal

2945
01:42:20,550 --> 01:42:18,880
it's the worst of any entity probably

2946
01:42:22,950 --> 01:42:20,560
that's why you have heard nothing from

2947
01:42:24,790 --> 01:42:22,960
the air force okay when your situation

2948
01:42:27,350 --> 01:42:24,800
is as bad as the air forces you're just

2949
01:42:29,189 --> 01:42:27,360
down here like you okay okay look

2950
01:42:30,709 --> 01:42:29,199
brother the cia too yeah how are you

2951
01:42:32,470 --> 01:42:30,719
doing there you know it's good good just

2952
01:42:34,629 --> 01:42:32,480
don't don't pay attention to me i'm over

2953
01:42:37,270 --> 01:42:34,639
here gotta defend the country do your

2954
01:42:38,550 --> 01:42:37,280
thing you know uh

2955
01:42:39,590 --> 01:42:38,560
but they're gonna have to come forward

2956
01:42:40,790 --> 01:42:39,600
as well

2957
01:42:43,109 --> 01:42:40,800
and so

2958
01:42:45,030 --> 01:42:43,119
it comes down to this and it's nothing

2959
01:42:46,310 --> 01:42:45,040
unusual about it

2960
01:42:48,149 --> 01:42:46,320
it turns out

2961
01:42:49,830 --> 01:42:48,159
that the way it has to work and this is

2962
01:42:52,229 --> 01:42:49,840
public relations

2963
01:42:54,629 --> 01:42:52,239
is that they're going they are having to

2964
01:42:57,350 --> 01:42:54,639
quote lie

2965
01:42:58,310 --> 01:42:57,360
and that that there's many shades of

2966
01:42:59,430 --> 01:42:58,320
that

2967
01:43:00,709 --> 01:42:59,440
little

2968
01:43:02,629 --> 01:43:00,719
mis

2969
01:43:05,669 --> 01:43:02,639
representation here

2970
01:43:07,990 --> 01:43:05,679
a little failure to mention that here

2971
01:43:10,070 --> 01:43:08,000
uh a somewhat shaded explanation

2972
01:43:13,270 --> 01:43:10,080
whatever the hell they have to but let's

2973
01:43:15,270 --> 01:43:13,280
call it they have to lie their way out

2974
01:43:18,070 --> 01:43:15,280
of a much bigger lie

2975
01:43:20,390 --> 01:43:18,080
in service to the national good

2976
01:43:22,629 --> 01:43:20,400
and i i mean make it clear i am

2977
01:43:24,149 --> 01:43:22,639
perfectly happy with that

2978
01:43:25,990 --> 01:43:24,159
absolutely

2979
01:43:27,910 --> 01:43:26,000
and i'm watching and untold and i've

2980
01:43:29,270 --> 01:43:27,920
given this message out on over probably

2981
01:43:31,350 --> 01:43:29,280
200

2982
01:43:33,750 --> 01:43:31,360
interviews at this point and why why am

2983
01:43:36,229 --> 01:43:33,760
i doing that why am i outing it

2984
01:43:38,229 --> 01:43:36,239
right in other words

2985
01:43:40,470 --> 01:43:38,239
you know if that's what they're doing

2986
01:43:41,430 --> 01:43:40,480
and it's and i'm happy with it meaning

2987
01:43:42,709 --> 01:43:41,440
yeah

2988
01:43:44,629 --> 01:43:42,719
uh that's what you're gonna have to do

2989
01:43:46,149 --> 01:43:44,639
and it's the right thing because what we

2990
01:43:47,750 --> 01:43:46,159
need is disclosure

2991
01:43:49,830 --> 01:43:47,760
and we need it in a way that is

2992
01:43:51,430 --> 01:43:49,840
minimally disruptive and destructive and

2993
01:43:53,350 --> 01:43:51,440
gets the truth out

2994
01:43:55,910 --> 01:43:53,360
then why would i say this

2995
01:43:59,189 --> 01:43:55,920
there's a reason

2996
01:44:02,149 --> 01:43:59,199
it's a little self-serving but

2997
01:44:04,070 --> 01:44:02,159
i believe it's valid

2998
01:44:05,030 --> 01:44:04,080
and i'll make this short we can end with

2999
01:44:06,790 --> 01:44:05,040
this

3000
01:44:09,510 --> 01:44:06,800
uh

3001
01:44:12,149 --> 01:44:09,520
the one thing i've said many many times

3002
01:44:13,910 --> 01:44:12,159
in my 26 years of dealing with this and

3003
01:44:16,870 --> 01:44:13,920
also my knowledge of what happened in

3004
01:44:19,990 --> 01:44:16,880
the past prior to 1996

3005
01:44:22,070 --> 01:44:20,000
is this extraordinary decision

3006
01:44:23,510 --> 01:44:22,080
by our government and other governments

3007
01:44:25,350 --> 01:44:23,520
in support of us and and other

3008
01:44:27,430 --> 01:44:25,360
governments that hate us but had their

3009
01:44:29,430 --> 01:44:27,440
own reasons

3010
01:44:32,310 --> 01:44:29,440
to deny to

3011
01:44:34,470 --> 01:44:32,320
well back in 1947 was about

3012
01:44:36,070 --> 01:44:34,480
3 billion people and by the end of the

3013
01:44:38,310 --> 01:44:36,080
century it was six billion people and

3014
01:44:39,590 --> 01:44:38,320
now it's 7.9 billion people can't have

3015
01:44:42,149 --> 01:44:39,600
too many people

3016
01:44:43,270 --> 01:44:42,159
right can't have too many bigger parties

3017
01:44:44,629 --> 01:44:43,280
more fun

3018
01:44:46,149 --> 01:44:44,639
uh the

3019
01:44:47,350 --> 01:44:46,159
the just

3020
01:44:58,550 --> 01:44:47,360
the

3021
01:45:00,229 --> 01:44:58,560
world

3022
01:45:03,350 --> 01:45:00,239
and

3023
01:45:06,870 --> 01:45:03,360
in order to do that they had to do a lot

3024
01:45:11,030 --> 01:45:08,870
not as awful as

3025
01:45:13,910 --> 01:45:11,040
some of the worst of our of the 20th

3026
01:45:15,669 --> 01:45:13,920
century nations and what they did

3027
01:45:17,109 --> 01:45:15,679
uh but

3028
01:45:19,750 --> 01:45:17,119
insidious

3029
01:45:21,830 --> 01:45:19,760
in a lot of ways and not worthy of of

3030
01:45:24,470 --> 01:45:21,840
the united states frankly i say not

3031
01:45:26,390 --> 01:45:24,480
worthy we do a lot of bad things and so

3032
01:45:28,070 --> 01:45:26,400
and none of them are are worthy of the

3033
01:45:30,390 --> 01:45:28,080
united states and this is just another

3034
01:45:32,550 --> 01:45:30,400
example but there's an insidious quality

3035
01:45:35,270 --> 01:45:32,560
to this that separates it out from i

3036
01:45:38,950 --> 01:45:35,280
don't know just carpet bombing vietnam

3037
01:45:44,790 --> 01:45:42,310
they had to make fools out of all of us

3038
01:45:45,830 --> 01:45:44,800
right everybody

3039
01:45:47,270 --> 01:45:45,840
you

3040
01:45:49,669 --> 01:45:47,280
me

3041
01:45:52,390 --> 01:45:49,679
the senate the house

3042
01:45:53,750 --> 01:45:52,400
all of academia the media average

3043
01:45:57,510 --> 01:45:53,760
citizens

3044
01:45:59,910 --> 01:45:57,520
everybody is made a fool of

3045
01:46:03,830 --> 01:46:02,149
the truth embargo worked

3046
01:46:05,669 --> 01:46:03,840
because virtually all of the

3047
01:46:07,750 --> 01:46:05,679
institutions and

3048
01:46:10,229 --> 01:46:07,760
the vast vast majority of the entire

3049
01:46:13,590 --> 01:46:10,239
american public

3050
01:46:15,750 --> 01:46:13,600
one way or another capitulated

3051
01:46:17,270 --> 01:46:15,760
and said yeah okay

3052
01:46:19,109 --> 01:46:17,280
yeah you're right that's that's there's

3053
01:46:20,870 --> 01:46:19,119
nothing there even though the damn thing

3054
01:46:22,070 --> 01:46:20,880
was flying all over the place

3055
01:46:24,470 --> 01:46:22,080
okay

3056
01:46:25,990 --> 01:46:24,480
it's one thing to have a manhattan

3057
01:46:27,350 --> 01:46:26,000
program

3058
01:46:29,590 --> 01:46:27,360
right where you're keeping the secret of

3059
01:46:31,270 --> 01:46:29,600
the building of the atomic bomb

3060
01:46:32,390 --> 01:46:31,280
which was hard too

3061
01:46:33,830 --> 01:46:32,400
because they had a couple hundred

3062
01:46:35,350 --> 01:46:33,840
thousand people working on it but i'll

3063
01:46:37,030 --> 01:46:35,360
tell you the circumstances were such

3064
01:46:38,470 --> 01:46:37,040
that everybody was on board no question

3065
01:46:39,910 --> 01:46:38,480
about it people are on board no now

3066
01:46:41,270 --> 01:46:39,920
there were plenty of spies and they got

3067
01:46:43,990 --> 01:46:41,280
all the information took in the soviet

3068
01:46:45,990 --> 01:46:44,000
union but nevertheless you get it but

3069
01:46:49,669 --> 01:46:46,000
the truth embargo on the et presence

3070
01:46:51,669 --> 01:46:49,679
much much harder than the the secrecy uh

3071
01:46:53,510 --> 01:46:51,679
conducted on the manhattan project that

3072
01:46:55,350 --> 01:46:53,520
was easy compared to the truth embargo

3073
01:46:56,870 --> 01:46:55,360
all right and so

3074
01:46:58,950 --> 01:46:56,880
but again

3075
01:47:00,470 --> 01:46:58,960
did they make fools of us with the

3076
01:47:02,629 --> 01:47:00,480
manhattan project no

3077
01:47:03,990 --> 01:47:02,639
there was this secret national security

3078
01:47:06,470 --> 01:47:04,000
program underway

3079
01:47:08,390 --> 01:47:06,480
that could end the war and i didn't know

3080
01:47:09,750 --> 01:47:08,400
about it and if somebody you know i i

3081
01:47:11,430 --> 01:47:09,760
say i didn't know somebody was asked

3082
01:47:13,910 --> 01:47:11,440
about it they could i don't i don't know

3083
01:47:15,910 --> 01:47:13,920
i've never heard of it right and those

3084
01:47:17,910 --> 01:47:15,920
that might have known knew exactly what

3085
01:47:20,310 --> 01:47:17,920
was going on and why it was done no

3086
01:47:22,550 --> 01:47:20,320
nobody was made a fool of but the truth

3087
01:47:24,390 --> 01:47:22,560
embargo on the et issue is different

3088
01:47:25,270 --> 01:47:24,400
because the thing that they're telling

3089
01:47:28,950 --> 01:47:25,280
you

3090
01:47:29,669 --> 01:47:28,960
at all

3091
01:47:32,149 --> 01:47:29,679
is

3092
01:47:33,910 --> 01:47:32,159
doing whatever it wants where it wants

3093
01:47:36,470 --> 01:47:33,920
and when it wants it's being seen and

3094
01:47:37,669 --> 01:47:36,480
photographed all over the world and the

3095
01:47:40,629 --> 01:47:37,679
government

3096
01:47:41,910 --> 01:47:40,639
is in the rather special position

3097
01:47:42,870 --> 01:47:41,920
they didn't have to do this i mean they

3098
01:47:45,270 --> 01:47:42,880
didn't have to they didn't have to

3099
01:47:47,109 --> 01:47:45,280
constantly go out and say what bomb

3100
01:47:48,629 --> 01:47:47,119
program what manhattan program what are

3101
01:47:50,550 --> 01:47:48,639
you talking about los alamos never heard

3102
01:47:51,910 --> 01:47:50,560
of it right huntsville

3103
01:47:53,910 --> 01:47:51,920
you have to do that

3104
01:47:56,870 --> 01:47:53,920
and it was a short time i mean the whole

3105
01:47:59,109 --> 01:47:56,880
program lasted about a year and a half

3106
01:48:03,270 --> 01:47:59,119
in this case they have to go out and lie

3107
01:48:05,350 --> 01:48:03,280
day after day after day after day for 75

3108
01:48:07,350 --> 01:48:05,360
solid years

3109
01:48:09,270 --> 01:48:07,360
everybody has to lie

3110
01:48:11,270 --> 01:48:09,280
the politicians if they know the

3111
01:48:13,270 --> 01:48:11,280
congress i mean the the department of

3112
01:48:15,350 --> 01:48:13,280
defense the military the secret all of

3113
01:48:17,270 --> 01:48:15,360
them they all have to lie

3114
01:48:19,430 --> 01:48:17,280
they have to do things

3115
01:48:21,109 --> 01:48:19,440
like give press conferences in 1997 at

3116
01:48:22,629 --> 01:48:21,119
the pentagon where they say it was a it

3117
01:48:25,109 --> 01:48:22,639
was a mogul balloon and crash test

3118
01:48:26,950 --> 01:48:25,119
dummies john haynes i don't know if he's

3119
01:48:28,070 --> 01:48:26,960
still alive i have sympathy for colonel

3120
01:48:29,750 --> 01:48:28,080
john hayes

3121
01:48:31,270 --> 01:48:29,760
and and but they had to do more than

3122
01:48:33,350 --> 01:48:31,280
that

3123
01:48:34,950 --> 01:48:33,360
in order to make this work they had to

3124
01:48:36,470 --> 01:48:34,960
create what i call an intellectual

3125
01:48:37,990 --> 01:48:36,480
ghetto

3126
01:48:39,750 --> 01:48:38,000
in other words

3127
01:48:40,709 --> 01:48:39,760
they can't threaten to kill you

3128
01:48:42,790 --> 01:48:40,719
right

3129
01:48:45,510 --> 01:48:42,800
they can't put you in a gulag you know

3130
01:48:47,270 --> 01:48:45,520
they can't go soldier needs in on you

3131
01:48:49,910 --> 01:48:47,280
and so what they have to do is they have

3132
01:48:50,950 --> 01:48:49,920
to they have to minimize you

3133
01:48:52,629 --> 01:48:50,960
they have to do something that they

3134
01:48:54,390 --> 01:48:52,639
often do in societies and nations going

3135
01:48:56,709 --> 01:48:54,400
back in history happens all the time

3136
01:48:58,070 --> 01:48:56,719
they make you

3137
01:48:59,990 --> 01:48:58,080
toxic

3138
01:49:01,669 --> 01:49:00,000
they separate you out from everybody

3139
01:49:04,310 --> 01:49:01,679
else okay

3140
01:49:06,070 --> 01:49:04,320
and so what they did

3141
01:49:07,350 --> 01:49:06,080
is they they said

3142
01:49:11,270 --> 01:49:07,360
uh

3143
01:49:12,070 --> 01:49:11,280
here

3144
01:49:14,709 --> 01:49:12,080
okay

3145
01:49:17,669 --> 01:49:14,719
held it up you know

3146
01:49:21,109 --> 01:49:17,679
a little patch here a little patch here

3147
01:49:23,510 --> 01:49:21,119
and it says ufo

3148
01:49:24,790 --> 01:49:23,520
it's all stitched in ufo

3149
01:49:29,350 --> 01:49:24,800
and

3150
01:49:31,750 --> 01:49:29,360
because you have apparently engaged this

3151
01:49:34,550 --> 01:49:31,760
issue this ufo thing

3152
01:49:36,629 --> 01:49:34,560
whenever you are out in public you must

3153
01:49:39,189 --> 01:49:36,639
this must be stitched into your clothing

3154
01:49:40,709 --> 01:49:39,199
it must be seen you can't hide it and if

3155
01:49:42,790 --> 01:49:40,719
you come out in public and you don't

3156
01:49:43,990 --> 01:49:42,800
have that on there will be consequences

3157
01:49:46,390 --> 01:49:44,000
for you

3158
01:49:48,550 --> 01:49:46,400
and that way whenever you're around

3159
01:49:51,750 --> 01:49:48,560
everybody will be able to see right away

3160
01:49:54,709 --> 01:49:51,760
that yeah you're a ufo person tin foil

3161
01:49:55,510 --> 01:49:54,719
hat [\h__\h] that you know nutter stuff yeah

3162
01:49:57,270 --> 01:49:55,520
yeah

3163
01:49:58,790 --> 01:49:57,280
so like you know i i'd love to talk to

3164
01:50:00,709 --> 01:49:58,800
you right now but i i got something

3165
01:50:03,589 --> 01:50:00,719
better to do

3166
01:50:04,790 --> 01:50:03,599
i am not exaggerating this

3167
01:50:06,229 --> 01:50:04,800
right now

3168
01:50:07,830 --> 01:50:06,239
you know no i'm using the patch thing

3169
01:50:10,709 --> 01:50:07,840
you know damn well why i'm using that

3170
01:50:12,950 --> 01:50:10,719
patch analogy right but this isn't that

3171
01:50:15,109 --> 01:50:12,960
kind of a country in the u.s this is

3172
01:50:16,470 --> 01:50:15,119
damn near the same thing obviously if it

3173
01:50:18,790 --> 01:50:16,480
went that far there would be some

3174
01:50:20,629 --> 01:50:18,800
lawyers involved and so essentially they

3175
01:50:22,790 --> 01:50:20,639
took the ufo acronym and they just

3176
01:50:25,270 --> 01:50:22,800
drenched it and ridiculed marinated and

3177
01:50:27,030 --> 01:50:25,280
disdain they made it just pathetic and

3178
01:50:28,950 --> 01:50:27,040
nonsense and then they keep telling

3179
01:50:30,870 --> 01:50:28,960
people that and therefore unless you can

3180
01:50:32,709 --> 01:50:30,880
figure out how to join mufon or do

3181
01:50:35,030 --> 01:50:32,719
investigations or write a book whatever

3182
01:50:36,550 --> 01:50:35,040
the hell without ever using the acronym

3183
01:50:38,629 --> 01:50:36,560
ufo

3184
01:50:40,870 --> 01:50:38,639
you're in the ghetto the intellectual

3185
01:50:42,870 --> 01:50:40,880
ghetto of ufology

3186
01:50:44,870 --> 01:50:42,880
and how many people

3187
01:50:46,470 --> 01:50:44,880
they threw into that ghetto will never

3188
01:50:48,310 --> 01:50:46,480
know it's a big number

3189
01:50:49,750 --> 01:50:48,320
i know it included pulitzer prize winner

3190
01:50:53,990 --> 01:50:49,760
john mack

3191
01:50:57,189 --> 01:50:55,430
edgar mitchell

3192
01:50:58,870 --> 01:50:57,199
gordon cooper

3193
01:51:00,790 --> 01:50:58,880
right i can go on

3194
01:51:03,350 --> 01:51:00,800
all right didn't matter

3195
01:51:05,669 --> 01:51:03,360
and how many damn phds you had

3196
01:51:08,149 --> 01:51:05,679
and and that's kind of analogous to the

3197
01:51:09,109 --> 01:51:08,159
other example of this with the patch

3198
01:51:12,870 --> 01:51:09,119
right

3199
01:51:14,550 --> 01:51:12,880
two phds and a concert violinist

3200
01:51:16,550 --> 01:51:14,560
you wear the patch

3201
01:51:17,750 --> 01:51:16,560
and you don't get to shop here you don't

3202
01:51:20,149 --> 01:51:17,760
get money

3203
01:51:23,350 --> 01:51:20,159
you can't go to college whatever you've

3204
01:51:25,270 --> 01:51:23,360
got to patch on that is what they did

3205
01:51:26,950 --> 01:51:25,280
for 75 years they created an

3206
01:51:29,669 --> 01:51:26,960
intellectual ghetto and threw everybody

3207
01:51:33,109 --> 01:51:29,679
in it and said these people are crazy in

3208
01:51:35,109 --> 01:51:33,119
order to serve the national security

3209
01:51:36,870 --> 01:51:35,119
and

3210
01:51:38,550 --> 01:51:36,880
the entire academic community of the

3211
01:51:40,390 --> 01:51:38,560
united states with just a couple of

3212
01:51:41,910 --> 01:51:40,400
exceptions went completely along with it

3213
01:51:44,070 --> 01:51:41,920
does that sound similar to what happened

3214
01:51:46,310 --> 01:51:44,080
in the 30s 1930s

3215
01:51:47,589 --> 01:51:46,320
5000 colleges and universities millions

3216
01:51:50,070 --> 01:51:47,599
of professors passed through the

3217
01:51:52,390 --> 01:51:50,080
academia in the 20th century

3218
01:51:54,310 --> 01:51:52,400
not a single properly accredited course

3219
01:51:56,629 --> 01:51:54,320
ever taught except some vanity courses

3220
01:51:58,390 --> 01:51:56,639
like jacobs the temple and a couple of

3221
01:52:00,390 --> 01:51:58,400
community colleges

3222
01:52:02,390 --> 01:52:00,400
the phenomena is everywhere it's being

3223
01:52:04,470 --> 01:52:02,400
written about hundreds and thousands of

3224
01:52:05,669 --> 01:52:04,480
books not a single course they went

3225
01:52:13,270 --> 01:52:05,679
along with it

3226
01:52:15,270 --> 01:52:13,280
right the financing institutions and the

3227
01:52:17,990 --> 01:52:15,280
and the the foundations went along with

3228
01:52:20,229 --> 01:52:18,000
it no money for you

3229
01:52:22,070 --> 01:52:20,239
every single and the scientists god

3230
01:52:25,109 --> 01:52:22,080
bless them not the academics i'm talking

3231
01:52:26,550 --> 01:52:25,119
about the scientists the sagans

3232
01:52:29,510 --> 01:52:26,560
the shasta

3233
01:52:32,070 --> 01:52:29,520
so many others they went along with it

3234
01:52:33,910 --> 01:52:32,080
and so i say

3235
01:52:34,790 --> 01:52:33,920
the truth and bar and then the american

3236
01:52:36,470 --> 01:52:34,800
people

3237
01:52:37,350 --> 01:52:36,480
okay

3238
01:52:38,390 --> 01:52:37,360
if you

3239
01:52:39,669 --> 01:52:38,400
and you're basically telling the

3240
01:52:40,950 --> 01:52:39,679
american people

3241
01:52:42,149 --> 01:52:40,960
what are you seeing

3242
01:52:44,550 --> 01:52:42,159
what are you talking about right it's

3243
01:52:46,229 --> 01:52:44,560
not true or not not that just you know

3244
01:52:47,030 --> 01:52:46,239
they're not getting that truth okay in

3245
01:52:48,390 --> 01:52:47,040
other words you're not getting that

3246
01:52:49,669 --> 01:52:48,400
truth you're not going to know that

3247
01:52:51,350 --> 01:52:49,679
you're not going to have access to any

3248
01:52:53,350 --> 01:52:51,360
tech we may have developed in other

3249
01:52:54,950 --> 01:52:53,360
words you know it's true you

3250
01:52:58,229 --> 01:52:54,960
so yeah they made a fool of the american

3251
01:52:59,510 --> 01:52:58,239
people all of us and i'll extend that to

3252
01:53:02,470 --> 01:52:59,520
the world though as you get to some

3253
01:53:04,070 --> 01:53:02,480
countries it's so completely outside of

3254
01:53:05,830 --> 01:53:04,080
the issue in a sense that they're

3255
01:53:08,149 --> 01:53:05,840
they're they're totally collateral

3256
01:53:10,550 --> 01:53:08,159
bystanders i'm talking about

3257
01:53:12,629 --> 01:53:10,560
certainly in in the developed world

3258
01:53:14,310 --> 01:53:12,639
uh and i'll include china include russia

3259
01:53:15,270 --> 01:53:14,320
include france canada australia all of

3260
01:53:17,109 --> 01:53:15,280
those

3261
01:53:19,589 --> 01:53:17,119
the truth embargo made a fool of every

3262
01:53:21,830 --> 01:53:19,599
single person

3263
01:53:23,669 --> 01:53:21,840
and now having made a fool of every

3264
01:53:26,629 --> 01:53:23,679
single person on the planet

3265
01:53:28,790 --> 01:53:26,639
practically they now have to say

3266
01:53:29,750 --> 01:53:28,800
sorry

3267
01:53:31,189 --> 01:53:29,760
i

3268
01:53:32,229 --> 01:53:31,199
you know we

3269
01:53:35,030 --> 01:53:32,239
yes

3270
01:53:38,390 --> 01:53:35,040
sorry we did it sorry it took so long to

3271
01:53:41,430 --> 01:53:38,400
finally tell you the truth we met well

3272
01:53:44,470 --> 01:53:41,440
well you see the problem which brings me

3273
01:53:48,790 --> 01:53:46,550
the truth embargo is going to end

3274
01:53:50,709 --> 01:53:48,800
the process is underway i fully support

3275
01:53:53,350 --> 01:53:50,719
that process

3276
01:53:55,109 --> 01:53:53,360
and nothing i'm going to say

3277
01:53:56,149 --> 01:53:55,119
what what i'm going to say right now and

3278
01:53:57,430 --> 01:53:56,159
i've said it before and you'll be

3279
01:53:59,109 --> 01:53:57,440
hearing me saying it again on much

3280
01:54:00,629 --> 01:53:59,119
bigger platforms than this because i

3281
01:54:02,310 --> 01:54:00,639
have let's just say i have my own

3282
01:54:04,229 --> 01:54:02,320
project in the works okay

3283
01:54:06,830 --> 01:54:04,239
beautiful is this

3284
01:54:10,390 --> 01:54:06,840
i want as many people as possible to

3285
01:54:13,750 --> 01:54:10,400
know that what they're seeing is not a

3286
01:54:15,910 --> 01:54:13,760
quote straight up legitimate i finally

3287
01:54:18,629 --> 01:54:15,920
you i you know we got to do something

3288
01:54:20,310 --> 01:54:18,639
now i i see it let's do it no

3289
01:54:22,390 --> 01:54:20,320
no it's a dog and pony show it's a

3290
01:54:23,589 --> 01:54:22,400
public relations project designed to get

3291
01:54:24,709 --> 01:54:23,599
it done

3292
01:54:27,750 --> 01:54:24,719
all right

3293
01:54:29,510 --> 01:54:27,760
and to the extent that you know that

3294
01:54:30,950 --> 01:54:29,520
or to the extent that somebody doesn't

3295
01:54:31,910 --> 01:54:30,960
know that and they're sitting there

3296
01:54:33,910 --> 01:54:31,920
going

3297
01:54:35,910 --> 01:54:33,920
wow that's really great man the pentagon

3298
01:54:39,350 --> 01:54:35,920
set up a program and the congress is

3299
01:54:40,870 --> 01:54:39,360
involved i'm not sure about that

3300
01:54:42,310 --> 01:54:40,880
guess what

3301
01:54:45,030 --> 01:54:42,320
what i don't

3302
01:54:45,910 --> 01:54:45,040
what i'm going to try to minimize

3303
01:54:49,109 --> 01:54:45,920
is

3304
01:54:51,270 --> 01:54:49,119
they made a fool of us for 75 years

3305
01:54:53,830 --> 01:54:51,280
running the truth embargo

3306
01:54:56,390 --> 01:54:53,840
i it is my preference

3307
01:54:58,310 --> 01:54:56,400
that the act of ending it doesn't also

3308
01:55:00,390 --> 01:54:58,320
make a fool of us

3309
01:55:02,790 --> 01:55:00,400
right it's okay to know that's what

3310
01:55:04,550 --> 01:55:02,800
they're doing and it's not not legit but

3311
01:55:06,390 --> 01:55:04,560
it's going to get the job done

3312
01:55:07,910 --> 01:55:06,400
that's fine i know that you're not

3313
01:55:09,910 --> 01:55:07,920
making a fool out of me on this on this

3314
01:55:10,790 --> 01:55:09,920
process now i'm not i'm not i'm admitted

3315
01:55:13,030 --> 01:55:10,800
chump

3316
01:55:15,270 --> 01:55:13,040
because uh lou elizondo can can and

3317
01:55:16,790 --> 01:55:15,280
almost say it's an extraterrestrial 450

3318
01:55:18,870 --> 01:55:16,800
times and he can't go there i'm not

3319
01:55:20,390 --> 01:55:18,880
being made a chump because the the

3320
01:55:21,830 --> 01:55:20,400
department of defense shows up with a

3321
01:55:23,589 --> 01:55:21,840
couple of guys that had never studied

3322
01:55:24,629 --> 01:55:23,599
the issue i'm not a minute i know what's

3323
01:55:27,350 --> 01:55:24,639
going on

3324
01:55:28,790 --> 01:55:27,360
it's not making a fool out of me

3325
01:55:30,790 --> 01:55:28,800
and i would prefer it didn't make a fool

3326
01:55:33,109 --> 01:55:30,800
out of anybody and so i'm going to keep

3327
01:55:35,669 --> 01:55:33,119
saying that and i'm not worried it's

3328
01:55:39,510 --> 01:55:35,679
going to just it screw up the process

3329
01:55:41,109 --> 01:55:39,520
but it is going to in my view

3330
01:55:43,350 --> 01:55:41,119
mitigate

3331
01:55:46,229 --> 01:55:43,360
the response the more people that

3332
01:55:48,950 --> 01:55:46,239
understand what is going on and why i

3333
01:55:50,310 --> 01:55:48,960
think the more unders the more generous

3334
01:55:52,629 --> 01:55:50,320
that they will be

3335
01:55:53,910 --> 01:55:52,639
with the government when the final truth

3336
01:55:57,350 --> 01:55:53,920
is told

3337
01:56:00,229 --> 01:55:57,360
yeah thank you president biden uh

3338
01:56:02,229 --> 01:56:00,239
now we know we're not alone

3339
01:56:05,030 --> 01:56:02,239
we understand it took a long time we

3340
01:56:08,070 --> 01:56:05,040
understand this last couple of years

3341
01:56:09,510 --> 01:56:08,080
but hey we have the truth now

3342
01:56:12,390 --> 01:56:09,520
you had to lie to get out from under the

3343
01:56:14,070 --> 01:56:12,400
big lie but to a higher purpose

3344
01:56:15,750 --> 01:56:14,080
have the truth now let's move forward

3345
01:56:17,589 --> 01:56:15,760
together that's why that's why i'm going

3346
01:56:19,910 --> 01:56:17,599
to do that and i and and i intend to get

3347
01:56:21,750 --> 01:56:19,920
bigger and bigger platforms of course i

3348
01:56:24,550 --> 01:56:21,760
hope that that we'll just get them that

3349
01:56:26,709 --> 01:56:24,560
we'll get that we'll get the uh the uh

3350
01:56:28,629 --> 01:56:26,719
the disclosure process uh done and we'll

3351
01:56:30,790 --> 01:56:28,639
get the announcement from the president

3352
01:56:32,950 --> 01:56:30,800
soon so i i probably won't be able to

3353
01:56:34,310 --> 01:56:32,960
meet reach too many people

3354
01:56:35,270 --> 01:56:34,320
but

3355
01:56:38,149 --> 01:56:35,280
uh

3356
01:56:39,669 --> 01:56:38,159
i think the record of my statements

3357
01:56:42,390 --> 01:56:39,679
and others that want to join me in this

3358
01:56:44,790 --> 01:56:42,400
regard will still be around

3359
01:56:47,270 --> 01:56:44,800
and people can look at those and go

3360
01:56:48,950 --> 01:56:47,280
well yeah i get it i get it yeah well

3361
01:56:49,830 --> 01:56:48,960
they kind of made it trump of me again

3362
01:56:52,070 --> 01:56:49,840
but

3363
01:56:54,229 --> 01:56:52,080
i get it right and some people knew

3364
01:56:55,669 --> 01:56:54,239
steve knew and others knew and so it

3365
01:56:56,870 --> 01:56:55,679
wasn't like they were pulling the rule

3366
01:56:58,470 --> 01:56:56,880
of everybody's eyes and i'm a busy

3367
01:57:00,149 --> 01:56:58,480
person i got i got a family to take care

3368
01:57:02,550 --> 01:57:00,159
of i got a job to go to

3369
01:57:05,270 --> 01:57:02,560
but those that that followed it

3370
01:57:07,589 --> 01:57:05,280
understood it and they respected it i

3371
01:57:10,149 --> 01:57:07,599
know that because i'm watching

3372
01:57:11,589 --> 01:57:10,159
uh jay and sean's podcast which is

3373
01:57:13,910 --> 01:57:11,599
archived in their site like every other

3374
01:57:14,790 --> 01:57:13,920
podcast in history and i get it so you

3375
01:57:17,109 --> 01:57:14,800
see

3376
01:57:18,229 --> 01:57:17,119
that's kind of what's on my mind with

3377
01:57:20,070 --> 01:57:18,239
that uh

3378
01:57:20,950 --> 01:57:20,080
i said that would be a quick response i

3379
01:57:23,430 --> 01:57:20,960
lied

3380
01:57:26,229 --> 01:57:23,440
i think a lot i think there's this kind

3381
01:57:28,550 --> 01:57:26,239
of underlying tone as well where a lot

3382
01:57:30,790 --> 01:57:28,560
of people may realize this is happening

3383
01:57:32,149 --> 01:57:30,800
and are going with it anyways to get to

3384
01:57:33,350 --> 01:57:32,159
the end

3385
01:57:34,629 --> 01:57:33,360
yeah

3386
01:57:36,550 --> 01:57:34,639
but not everybody's going with it you

3387
01:57:39,189 --> 01:57:36,560
know that right not everybody they're

3388
01:57:42,870 --> 01:57:39,199
taking a beating on ufo twitter right

3389
01:57:45,030 --> 01:57:42,880
look what's on there barbecued fricken

3390
01:57:47,589 --> 01:57:45,040
he's he's totally stressed i think he's

3391
01:57:49,510 --> 01:57:47,599
got a therapist uh you know he's he's

3392
01:57:51,430 --> 01:57:49,520
taken the brunt he was he was the public

3393
01:57:52,390 --> 01:57:51,440
spokesperson he was the one that was

3394
01:57:53,669 --> 01:57:52,400
going to go out and keep talking to

3395
01:57:55,350 --> 01:57:53,679
people because somebody had to keep

3396
01:57:57,270 --> 01:57:55,360
talking to people and it wasn't going to

3397
01:57:58,470 --> 01:57:57,280
be melon and it wasn't going to be tom

3398
01:57:59,350 --> 01:57:58,480
tom said hey i've got enough of this

3399
01:58:00,709 --> 01:57:59,360
[\h__\h]

3400
01:58:03,109 --> 01:58:00,719
i'm going to go make a bunch of money

3401
01:58:04,950 --> 01:58:03,119
doing music no lou

3402
01:58:08,229 --> 01:58:04,960
lou took the took the hits he took all

3403
01:58:10,709 --> 01:58:08,239
the arrows and i understand that

3404
01:58:13,030 --> 01:58:10,719
uh and i'll be more than happy to

3405
01:58:15,510 --> 01:58:13,040
point that out indefinitely

3406
01:58:17,510 --> 01:58:15,520
uh he will get ultimately he's going to

3407
01:58:18,709 --> 01:58:17,520
get the recognition he deserves he's

3408
01:58:21,270 --> 01:58:18,719
going to get the accolades he's going to

3409
01:58:23,510 --> 01:58:21,280
get it all but he will pay

3410
01:58:25,589 --> 01:58:23,520
in blood for it

3411
01:58:26,950 --> 01:58:25,599
but

3412
01:58:28,470 --> 01:58:26,960
not everybody's going along and there's

3413
01:58:31,030 --> 01:58:28,480
a whole lot of stuff on the net that's

3414
01:58:32,550 --> 01:58:31,040
pretty savage and i'm i'm not

3415
01:58:34,470 --> 01:58:32,560
criticizing it look

3416
01:58:35,750 --> 01:58:34,480
it's a two-edged sword

3417
01:58:38,470 --> 01:58:35,760
they need people out there that are

3418
01:58:40,070 --> 01:58:38,480
showing understanding like myself

3419
01:58:42,149 --> 01:58:40,080
they also need people that are lighting

3420
01:58:43,830 --> 01:58:42,159
a fire under them you know

3421
01:58:45,030 --> 01:58:43,840
okay

3422
01:58:46,870 --> 01:58:45,040
you know like this and when you say that

3423
01:58:48,070 --> 01:58:46,880
when you say that one and calling them

3424
01:58:50,390 --> 01:58:48,080
it's kind of like a little it's a good

3425
01:58:52,310 --> 01:58:50,400
cop bad cop all right i'm not every i'm

3426
01:58:54,709 --> 01:58:52,320
not everybody to lay their sword down

3427
01:58:55,589 --> 01:58:54,719
and just go kumbaya and do it not

3428
01:58:57,589 --> 01:58:55,599
exactly

3429
01:58:59,430 --> 01:58:57,599
but we need enough people to understand

3430
01:59:01,270 --> 01:58:59,440
it in its larger scope

3431
01:59:03,270 --> 01:59:01,280
to balance things out a little bit so

3432
01:59:06,149 --> 01:59:03,280
that it's not all

3433
01:59:09,830 --> 01:59:06,159
castigation and and and granular

3434
01:59:11,430 --> 01:59:09,840
examination and and making ridiculous

3435
01:59:12,629 --> 01:59:11,440
accusations but that was gonna that's

3436
01:59:13,430 --> 01:59:12,639
all gonna happen

3437
01:59:16,070 --> 01:59:13,440
sure

3438
01:59:17,669 --> 01:59:16,080
uh that just comes with the internet but

3439
01:59:19,430 --> 01:59:17,679
this is a big issue it's one thing to be

3440
01:59:22,149 --> 01:59:19,440
castigated over i don't know something

3441
01:59:23,589 --> 01:59:22,159
you said about a you know a reality

3442
01:59:25,350 --> 01:59:23,599
television show it's another thing to be

3443
01:59:26,950 --> 01:59:25,360
castigated over a process in which the

3444
01:59:29,990 --> 01:59:26,960
most important truth in all of human

3445
01:59:31,669 --> 01:59:30,000
history is trying to come out born so

3446
01:59:33,910 --> 01:59:31,679
it's a rough ride for lou but i think

3447
01:59:35,270 --> 01:59:33,920
it's going to get better real soon uh

3448
01:59:37,669 --> 01:59:35,280
and uh

3449
01:59:39,189 --> 01:59:37,679
he will testify eventually

3450
01:59:40,470 --> 01:59:39,199
without question probably before

3451
01:59:44,229 --> 01:59:40,480
disclosure

3452
01:59:50,470 --> 01:59:44,239
i

3453
01:59:52,390 --> 01:59:50,480
number of members of the quote

3454
01:59:54,950 --> 01:59:52,400
uap community

3455
01:59:58,149 --> 01:59:54,960
that what what used to be called i don't

3456
02:00:01,030 --> 01:59:58,159
call the uh the ufological community or

3457
02:00:03,990 --> 02:00:01,040
the community philology these terms i i

3458
02:00:08,070 --> 02:00:05,990
everything evolves uh i think a

3459
02:00:09,669 --> 02:00:08,080
significant portion of them will be able

3460
02:00:11,750 --> 02:00:09,679
to go up on the hill

3461
02:00:12,950 --> 02:00:11,760
they would be absolutely stupid if they

3462
02:00:15,830 --> 02:00:12,960
didn't do that

3463
02:00:17,589 --> 02:00:15,840
the american people want to hear from

3464
02:00:19,990 --> 02:00:17,599
those people and if they think they're

3465
02:00:22,310 --> 02:00:20,000
getting shut out post predisclosure i

3466
02:00:24,709 --> 02:00:22,320
get it post disclosure there's no no no

3467
02:00:26,149 --> 02:00:24,719
acceptable reason for that

3468
02:00:28,470 --> 02:00:26,159
they if they think they're being shut

3469
02:00:29,669 --> 02:00:28,480
out they're not going to be happy at all

3470
02:00:31,270 --> 02:00:29,679
in other words the government's saying

3471
02:00:32,310 --> 02:00:31,280
look

3472
02:00:34,629 --> 02:00:32,320
the uh

3473
02:00:37,030 --> 02:00:34,639
people who couldn't say anything because

3474
02:00:39,910 --> 02:00:37,040
they were under classified status

3475
02:00:41,350 --> 02:00:39,920
uh they got to testify finally the

3476
02:00:43,510 --> 02:00:41,360
people who are trying to tell you the

3477
02:00:45,350 --> 02:00:43,520
truth for decades and decades uh we

3478
02:00:47,189 --> 02:00:45,360
don't want to hear from them right we

3479
02:00:49,830 --> 02:00:47,199
don't want them up in the hill and if

3480
02:00:51,669 --> 02:00:49,840
i'm the public i'm saying say what

3481
02:00:54,390 --> 02:00:51,679
right i say what in other words they

3482
02:00:56,790 --> 02:00:54,400
they quickly start undoing the good will

3483
02:00:58,709 --> 02:00:56,800
that they're creating and so yes i think

3484
02:01:00,870 --> 02:00:58,719
now i'm not saying everybody

3485
02:01:03,510 --> 02:01:00,880
because there's a lot of there's a lot

3486
02:01:05,830 --> 02:01:03,520
of interesting people in this field

3487
02:01:07,350 --> 02:01:05,840
interesting careers not saying everybody

3488
02:01:09,669 --> 02:01:07,360
but i think a representative amount will

3489
02:01:11,270 --> 02:01:09,679
be there to speak to a whole range of

3490
02:01:13,430 --> 02:01:11,280
issues

3491
02:01:15,510 --> 02:01:13,440
including

3492
02:01:17,270 --> 02:01:15,520
because it's inevitable

3493
02:01:18,390 --> 02:01:17,280
it won't be the day after disclosure i

3494
02:01:19,430 --> 02:01:18,400
can assure you

3495
02:01:21,430 --> 02:01:19,440
but

3496
02:01:22,790 --> 02:01:21,440
possibly sometime late this year or

3497
02:01:24,709 --> 02:01:22,800
early next year

3498
02:01:26,950 --> 02:01:24,719
you will have a panel

3499
02:01:28,629 --> 02:01:26,960
of highly credible contact d some of who

3500
02:01:30,950 --> 02:01:28,639
are actually military intelligence

3501
02:01:32,709 --> 02:01:30,960
community people maybe even active

3502
02:01:34,709 --> 02:01:32,719
they're going to sit in front of a

3503
02:01:36,950 --> 02:01:34,719
committee of congress and tell them

3504
02:01:38,709 --> 02:01:36,960
about their contact experiences

3505
02:01:41,990 --> 02:01:38,719
sometimes stuff that goes all the way

3506
02:01:45,430 --> 02:01:42,000
back to their child and that hearing is

3507
02:01:47,589 --> 02:01:45,440
going to get you know a 9.2 on imdb let

3508
02:01:49,669 --> 02:01:47,599
me tell you

3509
02:01:52,629 --> 02:01:49,679
i appreciate your time and this is the

3510
02:01:55,669 --> 02:01:52,639
longest podcast that i've done with jay

3511
02:01:58,950 --> 02:01:55,679
here and that's just how and trust me i

3512
02:02:01,270 --> 02:01:58,960
i can tell you sayonara at any time

3513
02:02:02,830 --> 02:02:01,280
i really appreciated it and loved

3514
02:02:05,109 --> 02:02:02,840
hearing you every

3515
02:02:07,189 --> 02:02:05,119
second hey when i'm with good people i

3516
02:02:09,030 --> 02:02:07,199
got to take advantage of it right

3517
02:02:11,109 --> 02:02:09,040
okay if it's hostile i'm thinking about

3518
02:02:13,669 --> 02:02:11,119
look you know guys it's been great i

3519
02:02:14,950 --> 02:02:13,679
really need to get to the bathroom no no

3520
02:02:16,950 --> 02:02:14,960
no this has been great i think a lot of

3521
02:02:19,109 --> 02:02:16,960
good stuff came out anytime you need me

3522
02:02:20,870 --> 02:02:19,119
i'm always there for you uh it's not a

3523
02:02:23,109 --> 02:02:20,880
microphone on this planet that i will

3524
02:02:25,189 --> 02:02:23,119
not step up to that's my job

3525
02:02:28,310 --> 02:02:25,199
and uh you guys are both too handsome

3526
02:02:34,629 --> 02:02:28,320
and too young man and you're killing me

3527
02:02:38,870 --> 02:02:36,390
which means that when you started doing

3528
02:02:41,189 --> 02:02:38,880
this you know you're only pretty much 18

3529
02:02:43,030 --> 02:02:41,199
years old you know like in this field so

3530
02:02:45,990 --> 02:02:43,040
thank you so much for flapping your arms

3531
02:02:48,229 --> 02:02:46,000
when you're talking about lou elizondo

3532
02:02:49,830 --> 02:02:48,239
doing taking the taking the arrows for

3533
02:02:51,750 --> 02:02:49,840
the last four and a half five years and

3534
02:02:53,990 --> 02:02:51,760
whatnot you know you've been out there

3535
02:02:56,229 --> 02:02:54,000
you've been out here for decades uh

3536
02:02:59,030 --> 02:02:56,239
doing doing exactly what you're doing

3537
02:03:00,950 --> 02:02:59,040
right now in one way or another and and

3538
02:03:02,629 --> 02:03:00,960
i i don't know that i've ever seen you

3539
02:03:06,149 --> 02:03:02,639
more energized

3540
02:03:08,629 --> 02:03:06,159
and and with more color in your skin

3541
02:03:10,709 --> 02:03:08,639
and more jazz than you are right now and

3542
02:03:12,830 --> 02:03:10,719
it's beautiful beautiful beautiful

3543
02:03:15,669 --> 02:03:12,840
beautiful beautiful to see that is

3544
02:03:17,109 --> 02:03:15,679
because and i'm not talking about

3545
02:03:21,830 --> 02:03:17,119
i'm getting married to the love of my

3546
02:03:26,149 --> 02:03:24,149
uh that is because

3547
02:03:27,430 --> 02:03:26,159
i got a big announcement coming in other

3548
02:03:30,070 --> 02:03:27,440
words i've

3549
02:03:33,270 --> 02:03:30,080
you know it's like i mean hey

3550
02:03:35,589 --> 02:03:33,280
26 years of you know almost didn't quite

3551
02:03:36,870 --> 02:03:35,599
uh what the hell where's the money where

3552
02:03:38,310 --> 02:03:36,880
am i going to live now all that kind of

3553
02:03:40,629 --> 02:03:38,320
crap uh

3554
02:03:41,669 --> 02:03:40,639
i i think so finally uh the worm has

3555
02:03:42,550 --> 02:03:41,679
turned

3556
02:03:44,550 --> 02:03:42,560
and

3557
02:03:46,709 --> 02:03:44,560
i'm gonna be announcing some really

3558
02:03:47,990 --> 02:03:46,719
heavy stuff here very soon and naturally

3559
02:03:49,270 --> 02:03:48,000
that that's part of the reason i'm

3560
02:03:50,709 --> 02:03:49,280
energized

3561
02:03:52,310 --> 02:03:50,719
i haven't had something this cool to

3562
02:03:53,589 --> 02:03:52,320
look forward to in a long time and

3563
02:03:55,750 --> 02:03:53,599
naturally

3564
02:03:57,350 --> 02:03:55,760
you call me a moment you hear about it

3565
02:03:59,430 --> 02:03:57,360
and i will schedule immediately

3566
02:04:01,109 --> 02:03:59,440
absolutely all right beautiful

3567
02:04:03,430 --> 02:04:01,119
all right looking forward to that that's

3568
02:04:05,589 --> 02:04:03,440
the deal excellent take care all right

3569
02:04:07,109 --> 02:04:05,599
thanks

3570
02:04:09,270 --> 02:04:07,119
absolutely have a great one too all

3571
02:04:11,270 --> 02:04:09,280
right thank you

3572
02:04:13,990 --> 02:04:11,280
all right

3573
02:04:16,310 --> 02:04:14,000
wow i really have to go to the bathroom

3574
02:04:18,149 --> 02:04:16,320
epic yeah i yeah

3575
02:04:19,830 --> 02:04:18,159
i should i've i've got some stuff thank

3576
02:04:20,870 --> 02:04:19,840
you everybody in the chat this has been

3577
02:04:23,270 --> 02:04:20,880
an absolutely

3578
02:04:26,149 --> 02:04:23,280
incredible conversation so great to have

3579
02:04:28,629 --> 02:04:26,159
steven so close uh to when we were live

3580
02:04:30,550 --> 02:04:28,639
streaming the hearings on may 17th you

3581
02:04:33,189 --> 02:04:30,560
know he's been he's been wanting to see

3582
02:04:35,830 --> 02:04:33,199
this for for over 25 years

3583
02:04:38,629 --> 02:04:35,840
and i'm just happy that people like him

3584
02:04:39,669 --> 02:04:38,639
uh you know made it to that that version

3585
02:04:41,910 --> 02:04:39,679
of the finish line that they were

3586
02:04:43,750 --> 02:04:41,920
looking for so and uh there's more

3587
02:04:46,390 --> 02:04:43,760
conversations and more discussion to be

3588
02:04:48,149 --> 02:04:46,400
had uh you know it doesn't finish there

3589
02:04:49,910 --> 02:04:48,159
it's in many ways it's only the

3590
02:04:53,430 --> 02:04:49,920
beginning

3591
02:04:56,629 --> 02:04:53,440
and i can't wait to um watch this all

3592
02:04:59,109 --> 02:04:56,639
happen and and experience it with you my

3593
02:05:00,629 --> 02:04:59,119
friend because absolutely man i do love

3594
02:05:01,990 --> 02:05:00,639
you and you become one of my best

3595
02:05:03,830 --> 02:05:02,000
friends and

3596
02:05:06,709 --> 02:05:03,840
um i couldn't ask for better company

3597
02:05:09,990 --> 02:05:06,719
going through this stuff so me too i

3598
02:05:13,350 --> 02:05:10,000
love you so much buddy yeah and

3599
02:05:16,709 --> 02:05:13,360
we'll see you very very soon and yeah

3600
02:05:18,709 --> 02:05:16,719
chime in tomorrow morning at 8 30 a.m

3601
02:05:21,189 --> 02:05:18,719
yes that's early but i have a live

3602
02:05:24,069 --> 02:05:21,199
stream of something i put together today

3603
02:05:25,669 --> 02:05:24,079
called how the cia stole the ufos i put

3604
02:05:29,030 --> 02:05:25,679
a good amount of time

3605
02:05:31,189 --> 02:05:29,040
oh wow taking documents from um

3606
02:05:33,189 --> 02:05:31,199
right after washington dc

3607
02:05:35,430 --> 02:05:33,199
through the robertson panel to right

3608
02:05:37,350 --> 02:05:35,440
after the robertson panel to show you

3609
02:05:41,830 --> 02:05:37,360
exactly what happened

3610
02:05:43,189 --> 02:05:41,840
and how it happened and um it it's

3611
02:05:45,430 --> 02:05:43,199
i gotta say it's probably one of my

3612
02:05:46,870 --> 02:05:45,440
better like little individual 20-minute

3613
02:05:49,030 --> 02:05:46,880
episodes probably the best one i've done

3614
02:05:51,669 --> 02:05:49,040
is it's really uh

3615
02:05:53,510 --> 02:05:51,679
it's really eye-opening so

3616
02:05:55,270 --> 02:05:53,520
awesome what's up tune in tomorrow

3617
02:05:57,830 --> 02:05:55,280
morning i'm definitely going to check it

3618
02:06:00,390 --> 02:05:57,840
out first thing all right

3619
02:06:00,400 --> 02:06:05,910
see you soon

3620
02:06:05,920 --> 02:06:18,390
[Music]

3621
02:06:27,650 --> 02:06:20,630
citizens

3622
02:06:29,730 --> 02:06:27,660
[Music]

3623
02:06:33,910 --> 02:06:29,740
[Applause]

3624
02:06:36,870 --> 02:06:33,920
[Music]

3625
02:06:38,390 --> 02:06:36,880
say that the recent sightings are in no

3626
02:06:40,950 --> 02:06:38,400
way connected

3627
02:06:46,470 --> 02:06:40,960
with any secret development by any